Key posts: Andy Eade's Rotten Basement Conversion Thread

Substantial posts by andy_eade, who started the thread, and by the forum’s most active contributors. 198 of 346 posts are listed.

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andy_eade, 5 December 2005Following on from my thread in the Studio Design Forum: http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4552 Having had the weekend to absorb the new design and think…
andy_eade, 6 December 2005Reference my questions 1 and 5 - having been researching some other projects here on the forum, I am starting to question whether I have been brainwashed into thinking…
cyeazel, 6 December 2005Hello there. Yes, to answer your question, it should be noted that drywall performs equally, if not better, than sheetblok (mass loaded vinyl). The idea is to have extra…
andy_eade, 7 December 2005Thank you so much for saving me thousands of dollars. This forum fills a real void and helps people like mine's dream become more like reality - so thank you. Sharard -…
andy_eade, 8 December 2005Makes sense. So here is what I am thinking in terms of my wall plan. RH Drum room wall (By stairs) - from right to left: 2 layers of 5/8ths wallboard on RHS of existing…
knightfly, 8 December 2005IF you have separate (double) frames, don't even THINK about using RC - it's a PITA and does NOTHING. Should only be used on ONE side of single frame walls with panels…
andy_eade, 8 December 2005Great - thanks so much Steve. I am updating my plan for the General Contractor. I will remove the RC from the side wall by the stairs and use nothing under the RC. btw -…
knightfly, 8 December 2005Lighting - I've yet to find an electronic dimmer that's quiet - most even vibrate the filaments in the lights for more mechanical noise. Only sure way is variacs, which…
andy_eade, 27 December 2005One last (2 part) question I have thought of as I am writing notes down to present to the General Contractor. For the walls of the booth that contain the sliding glass…
sharward, 28 December 2005I think conventional wisdom around here is to actually use two layers of 5/8", rather than mixing and matching 5/8" and 1/2". While there are some marginal benefits to…
andy_eade, 28 December 2005Okay great - low is definitely what I'm looking to reduce as much as possible so 2 x 5/8ths it is. The added benefit of simplicity is always nice too! :D As for the…
andy_eade, 28 December 2005Thanks Kieth. Wow it's really amazing to me that every time you think you have your final plan, something new pops out of the woodwork and makes you realize how much…
sharward, 28 December 2005You realize that "Green Glue" is kind of a misnomer, because it isn't actually "glue" in the sense that its job is not to fuse things together. It's a "constrained layer…
andy_eade, 28 December 2005Yes, I had actually taken a look at their site the other day and was reading the instructions and will print them out for the G.C. I think I will also re-word the…
andy_eade, 2 January 2006Would anyone be able to give me some feedback on the plan above that I want to give to the general contractor? Anything I've mis-written? Anything I've not made clear…
andy_eade, 6 January 2006Hi Steve, Thanks for taking the time to sanity check my ramblings. Wanted to give you a quick update on a couple of itmes that you hilighted. I checked on of the blocks…
knightfly, 9 January 2006I think I posted the original link - the DVD is a good basic intro, shows you what goes where and why. As you noticed though, it's far from a DIY studio build course…

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andy_eade, 9 January 2006I also picked up this book over the weekend and it seems to be pretty good so far:…
knightfly, 9 January 2006From the Pella site - specs I'm posting the STC specs if that's all you need. Appears as if they only spec double pane, even though from their site…
andy_eade, 10 January 2006Sorry Steve, yes. I was refering to the original patio door at the top of the plan. So you think I would only need 2 layers 1/2' on one side and 1 layer of 5/8 on the…
knightfly, 10 January 2006With only single sliding glass doors on each side of the booth, all you can hope for is decent iso for vox and for the booth to isolate your drums from the CR well…
andy_eade, 10 January 2006Wow that much eh! Well, the 4 leaf problem created by the dual pane s/g doors and walls for the booth have long been a concern of mine, so it's great to have a clearer…
andy_eade, 13 January 2006Steve - and all; I was just taking a look at the product info on S/G doors on the Pella website and I had a thought and wondered if anyone has explored this... So, I am…
andy_eade, 13 January 2006Something kinda like this: http://www.soundproofwindows.com/doors.html Update: I just talked with Jack from Soundproof windows and using one of their single s/g door…
andy_eade, 15 January 2006Still hoping for some insight on the above question... Also wanted to give you an update on the door and a potential new issue. I talked with Pella and it is just what…
sharward, 15 January 2006:shock: Yikes :shock: -- that's expensive alright! Ugh -- that doesn't seem good... :roll: ...If you do discover mold, you need to seal off the room with plastic to keep…
andy_eade, 16 January 2006Thanks Keith - that's a great artcile and I will be following this stage of investigation very cautiously! I started thinking about what could be allowing the moisture…
andy_eade, 17 January 2006I took another look at the front of the house near the offending tree and noticed two other potential problem spots: 1) Another tree stump (minus the tree). Diamter is…
knightfly, 17 January 2006Andy, the weak link in those two walls will be your sliders no matter what you put up for wallboard; I've been waiting to see what you find for glass, so I can get a…
andy_eade, 17 January 2006Yes I do like that approach, although my search for single pane sliders is looking bleak. After a week of calling around various s/g door manufacturers, it would seem…
sharward, 17 January 2006Just curious... What if you bought more "ordinary" sliding glass doors, then had a glass shop replace the two panes with a single pane of laminated glass? I have no idea…
andy_eade, 17 January 2006I like the way your thinking. I'm going to put a call in to Cardinal glass and ask them if this is possible. The only other thought I had was. Two regular sliders on…
Dan Fitzpatrick, 24 January 2006i wonder if the leaf rule really applies here. we are talking about a gap of maybe 10mm. the mass air mass resonance will therefore be high. below MAM frequency two…

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Dan Fitzpatrick, 24 January 2006Hi Andy, from my rough estimate using Brian Ravnaas' MSM calculator, based on 2 panes of 3mm glass with 13mm airspace, you are looking at around 220hz MAM frequency.…
andy_eade, 24 January 2006That's interesting. I just learned another new thing and also found a whole new world of posts and advice - yippee! I tried downloading the tool myself to plug in the…
Dan Fitzpatrick, 24 January 2006No problem Andy. Just remember that I'm really not much of an expert, i probably just know enough to get myself and you in trouble. and you are right, there are no studs…
andy_eade, 24 January 2006That really helped alot. Let me ask you one final question and then I will leave you in peace. Do you think I would be better of with my redesign? i.e. use a double,…
andy_eade, 25 January 2006Let me go through the options as I see them in as much detail as I can: Option 1) Double Stud Wall stuffed with FG insulation with 2 layers of 5/8" drywall on one side,…
andy_eade, 31 January 2006Dan, Keith, anyone? Hoping to get some feedback on the above from you guys. I have the oppertunity to get my grubby hands on some beautiful Mahogony Solid core doors for…
Dan Fitzpatrick, 31 January 2006Hi Andy, sorry i didn't reply, i wanted to see what others said, thought maybe i'd said enough ... also this is a tricky question, that it is difficult to give a "for…
knightfly, 1 February 2006That "option" you mentioned me mentioning :? would ONLY give you better iso between the drum room and CR; another advantage would be that you could use the stud frames…
andy_eade, 1 February 2006I don't have the specs on it. They took down that page unfortunatley sinc ethey now only build them custom. I will measure it and spec it for you when I get home. It is…
andy_eade, 5 February 2006So here is the update. I sealed off the basement on Friday and covered up all the a/c vents (pic 1) and then began removing the molding and Fake Oak Panelling (which…
sharward, 5 February 2006Holy crap. That looks bad. Get a reputable termite inspector in there right away. They should be able to advise you on the necessary steps. Note that home inspectors…
andy_eade, 6 February 2006Thanks Keith. I shall start looking for good local termite inspectors in the morning. As a matter of interest. I was away on business travel at the time of the…
sharward, 6 February 2006If your untrained eye could see discoloration, then it is possible that you noticed something that the termite inspector should have noticed but didn't. Ask the new…
Dan Fitzpatrick, 6 February 2006Sorry to see that damage Andy, truly a bummer :x Certainly this is a matter for professionals. But hopefully it's just a matter of jacking up the first floor a bit,…
andy_eade, 9 February 2006So here is the update; alot has happened in the last couple of days. Yesterday I ordered 5 solid core doors from a salvage place in Maryland. They are a little tall for…
sharward, 9 February 2006I have not had great luck with ServiceMagic. My first experience was about three years ago when I had a water service line break (the pipe between the municipal shut off…

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sharward, 9 February 2006I have not had great luck with ServiceMagic. My first experience was about three years ago when I had a water service line break (the pipe between the municipal shut off…
andy_eade, 9 February 2006I almost forgot one other key point he made and I am questioning. He said not to use a dehumidifier in the basement. He said that this will make the problem worse as it…
guitardad72, 10 February 2006Hey Andy nice thread here and in the design forum. I wish I had the amount of space you have to work with. Couple comments: I have had no luck through servicemagic.com…
knightfly, 10 February 2006My questions - Is the wood in the pix dry and crumbly, or still wet? The pix aren't quite showing; is there slightly granular "sawdust" in a lot of places, or just…
andy_eade, 10 February 2006Thanks Steve for your valuable input. Let me go through each one of these and give you the info... Is the wood in the pix dry and crumbly, or still wet? It is dry and…
andy_eade, 10 February 2006Hi Kathy - actually I have been following your thread diligently also. I have found that the more threads I follow, the more grey areas are filled in my mind. I have…
knightfly, 10 February 2006Andy, your idea for the window sounds about right. If you have 1/3 the thickness of glass compared to gypsum for EACH SIDE, you're good. Not ventilating with outside air…
andy_eade, 10 February 2006But I thought I needed the fresh air from outside to achive full air exchange every half hour. Don't I still need this to prevent "yawning musician syndrome"?…
andy_eade, 14 February 2006So to give you an update on a couple of items. I had Terminix in on Saturday to give me a second opinion. The guy was very thorough and proposed the same solution as the…
andy_eade, 14 February 2006Oh no. It's definitely Sheetrock... One other Termite point I forgot to close the loop with Keith on was the re-application / piping question. I talked to the guy that…
andy_eade, 15 February 2006Doors arrived this morning and they are indeed solid core, very heavy and beautiful! Best $50 I ever spent! For a slavage place they were awesome! They called me…
andy_eade, 15 February 2006oooh, and one other question for Steve (or anyone else) in addition to the above. You had mentioned about using plywood instead of gyp for the cinderblock walls that…
sharward, 15 February 2006:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:…
andy_eade, 15 February 2006Thanks Sandersd, I knew there was a way, and I was thinking it involved tape, but I had missed the most important part about cutting into the vener with a knife. Thanks…
sharward, 15 February 2006Yup, I'm familiar with the "owner declaration" affidavit -- the one that says, basically, "I'm doing the work myself and/or I'll hire licensed subcontractors as needed."…

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andy_eade, 16 February 2006What to do about my "potential" basement moisture issue - The final Chapter Really calling on your help here guys. So the basement waterproofers came back out tonight to…
guitardad72, 16 February 2006I just went through a complete review of cinder block 3 leaf thing. All opinions and immediate one from Knightly were YES fill the blocks and the 16” footer under wall…
andy_eade, 16 February 2006As an update. I have talked to a couple of his previous clients and they were very satisfied with the work that was done. One lady said that she had mold issues before…
andy_eade, 17 February 2006NEWSFLASH Tropical storm Andy Warning...Tropical Storm Andy Warning... Well, it's official. I have water! My tropical storm simulator seemed to do the trick. I let the…
andy_eade, 17 February 2006Yes. To be honest I am almost releived. At least this way I can have peace of mind knowing that I have adressed the problem. Otherwise I would always be wondering what…
kendale, 17 February 2006Aloha Andy, Sorry to hear about that much moisture coming through, but I guess it's better that you found the problem now rather than later. Sheesh! A couple of things…
sharward, 17 February 2006Great points, David -- perhaps you can amend the "Safety During Demolition, Construction" thread with your suggestions and comments. 8) Andy, hang in there buddy. It…
andy_eade, 17 February 2006Thanks David. I have been very careful, and thought I might have been, at times overly cautious. Hard hat, steel toe boots, goggles, respirator, overalls and gloves for…
andy_eade, 17 February 2006So I met with my freinds Dad last night and went through my plan with him. He is a Drywall contractor and wanted to know how (and if) he could assist me in my project.…
Dan Fitzpatrick, 17 February 2006Andy, although i have heard of one guy around here somewhere successfully using a router to cut drywall from the walls, intact, and use it for beef up, i doubt you'd be…
andy_eade, 17 February 2006Yes I thought it sounded fishy... He says they have used the resiliant channel before; not sure about the clips. I guess once I get the existing ceiling down I can take…
andy_eade, 19 February 2006Here are some pictures of todays progress along with a few questions for you all: You'll see from picture 79 that I have some ductwork that spans the basement between…
sharward, 19 February 2006I'd think yes. Do you know how old the tile is? It might have asbestos in it. This page shows years and manufacturers of asbestos-embedded vinyl tile, including…

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andy_eade, 20 February 2006Keith - once again your keen eye for safety has proven you as a life-saver on this forum. It's true what they say about people who assume, except that I was the only ass…
guitardad72, 20 February 2006Andy, I feel your pain of set backs with existing conditions :!: You've sure uncovered a lot of problem areas to deal with before you get close to actually building a…
sharward, 20 February 2006Andy, thank you for taking my concerns seriously and for being so diligent in documenting everything for everyone's benefit. 8) I surely hope you have some good news to…
andy_eade, 20 February 2006Well here is today's news so far. I have talked to a couple of Asbestos removal companies to get further inmformation. And here is what I learned. - Towards the end of…
sharward, 21 February 2006I have a wide range of emotions about this... There's the "Whew! Close call!" feeling, similar to that of seeing a very near-miss incident on the freeway. There's the…
andy_eade, 21 February 2006Okay so the news is back from the lab already (boy they were quick)... and it's not good I'm afraid: Report Date: 02/21/06 ANDREW EADE HERNDON, VA 20170 **** FINAL…
andy_eade, 22 February 2006Bagged up all of the drywall and insulation tonight ready for a trip to the landfill at the weekend. I also needed to clear up ready for a visit from Young Enviromental…
andy_eade, 23 February 2006she is gone... no more Firebird :cry: Still, it seems she is going to a good home, plus I wont need a "fun" car when I have my "fun" studio :D So the Asbestos guy came…
andy_eade, 2 March 2006So I wanted to give you all the latest as well as ask a question - Probably the obvious one for me to ask at this stage. Actually it is more like –can you guys check my…
andy_eade, 4 March 2006I looked into those, but the estimate I got was going to run me more than triple the cost of the other one and I also have heard some horror stories about these not…
knightfly, 4 March 2006My span calculator shows nearly 20 PSF dead load for your SPF #2, your calculations are fine; you should be able to add a total of 3 layers of 5/8 drywall no sweat. I…
andy_eade, 5 March 2006Thanks Steve. Do you think that will be enough mass to isolate my late night drumming from the rest of the house or do you think I can add another "beef-up" layer, and…
andy_eade, 15 March 2006Long time no post here :D Been away travelling for a week. Couple of days in NJ on business and then a weekend down in Memphis where I felt honoured to stand in the…
sharward, 15 March 2006Liquid Nails is most likely not to code. Talk to your building department. Too bad you couldn't plan ahead and have them set J bolts in the concrete. You may need to…
andy_eade, 18 March 2006Okay - as promised here are the long awaited pictures of the progress in the basement. Namely: Sump system install, New Hot Water Heater System, Complete Removal of all…

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andy_eade, 18 March 2006more pics Image not preserved: Studio_Construction_Pics 040.JPG Image not preserved: Studio_Construction_Pics 039.JPG Image not preserved: Studio_Construction_Pics…
andy_eade, 20 March 2006Aloha Kendale! Thanks for taking the time with my pics. Very much appreciated. It's great to see you're done with the cloud. I'm looking forward to seeing the pictures…
andy_eade, 21 March 2006So I seem to have found the answer to my question 1 in Rods new book - Acoustical Caulk it is. However the other questions remain along with some new one's I have. - How…
Dan Fitzpatrick, 22 March 2006Andy, I don't know exactly the situation you have or the picture in Rod's book (stupid Amazon!!) ... but i don't know of any reason why you would not use screws to…
andy_eade, 22 March 2006Thanks Dan for your pearls =) that definitely helps clarify. Steve - it is beefing up a ceiling. I'm at a similar stage to Rufer (the other thread you posted in…
andy_eade, 22 March 2006Steve, You already gave me the thumbs up on the span calcs back on page 10 of my thread (also has the spacing / type / size etc), So I think I should be good. I guess…
knightfly, 22 March 2006Thanks for the link, just making sure :D Cleats - I'd push 'em up against the drywall inserts while the mud/caulk is still wet, and SCREW them to the joists - you can…
andy_eade, 23 March 2006:oops: Sorry Steve, now I understand why you were talking about walls and I'm thinking ceilings. As far as my question regarding using screws for the beef up. I was…
sharward, 23 March 200699.5% #2 and 0.5% #1. I would actually advise you do both screws about 1" from the edge of the drywall strips into the subfloor and 1x2 cleats along the joists. The…
andy_eade, 23 March 2006Thanks Keith. Screws and Cleats is what I was leaning towards so that makes me feel much more comfortable. As for GG. I'm going to give it some thought. Your argument of…
sharward, 23 March 2006Well, yes, you would have to seal it off, but that's only part of the solution. You'd also have to have mass... Remember? :roll: You also run the risk of bridging your…
andy_eade, 23 March 2006Loud and clear... I am definitely ready to do the extra work if it seems necessary. I'm all for cutting unnecessary steps, but not corners that are essential. I will…
knightfly, 24 March 2006Andy, is your entire studio (CR and other rooms) going in that one long bay we see in your pix, or will part of it be on the other side of that stud wall frame we see?…
andy_eade, 24 March 2006Yes this is the plan. I cannot do anything further on the right hand side of the wall as you will see from my new pictures as all the HVAC and Hot Water heater are…
andy_eade, 24 March 2006and here are the remaining pics; including the one for Keith. :D 43 shows the control for regulating fresh air intake. 47 shows the flex duct added today for the fresh…
andy_eade, 24 March 2006Dang it :oops: It was late on the East coast :) It's on my other computer - I will post it as soon as I get home from work. Keith - you have inspired me. I can add extra…
sharward, 24 March 2006Right on. :-) I had initially planned to beef up my laundry room and office walls from the living space sides... But my father-in-law suggested that I do it from the…

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andy_eade, 25 March 2006Keith - I completely missed the oppertunity to tease you on your stack envy :lol: Okay so I think your suggestion would work for the area show in pic 47. But I need to…
andy_eade, 25 March 2006Also wondering if anyone has any thoughts on my concern du jour from Sharwards thread: I am of course refering to the depth one needs to set the wall anchors. If you'll…
knightfly, 26 March 2006Andy, are those just wide troughs in the concrete around the perimeter? If so, can you draw a basic sketch showing the elevation? Need to know what their "altitude" is…
guitardad72, 26 March 2006Hey Andy, I'm lucky with my building code office; they usually call back the same day. Plus Florida Building Code is online, a hard read but my answers can be found…
andy_eade, 27 March 2006Steve, Reference your previous post. I realize now that those pics are very difficult to follow without the benefit of the third dimension. I have added a pic with…
guitardad72, 27 March 2006Andy, Your welcome and one more point for you and anybody else following along: Try to show nothing in your plan that looks like a closet for a bedroom or at least be…
andy_eade, 27 March 2006Thanks Marc - that's good to know and I will be sure to be careful. My plan currently shows Booth, and soundlock as the names for the small spaces. I am have made it…
sharward, 28 March 2006I would not put a wall directly on top of that pipe, especially if youre going to support the weight of a ceiling on top of the inner walls. Think of how much weight…
andy_eade, 28 March 2006do you think I can get away with it if I shelve the idea of framing a new ceiling and go with the Clips? Also as a bit of fun trivia I just tested the existing isolation…
andy_eade, 28 March 2006I have a call into them and will ask them when they call me back. As it happens I now have another reason to talk to them. Whilst doing laundry tonight I filled my…
andy_eade, 29 March 2006Question for all you beefer uppers out there. When adding the sheetrock between the joists should I be taping the joins before adding green glue and the second layer?…
knightfly, 29 March 2006When adding the sheetrock between the joists should I be taping the joins before adding green glue and the second layer? Depends on how quick you work; if you're quick…

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andy_eade, 29 March 2006Thanks Steve for the drawing and setting my mind at ease. I think Shar is right for me to at least be cautious; particularly as I was talking about maybe supporting a…
knightfly, 31 March 2006Granted I'm not an engineer, but to my way of thinking - yes, the studs are offset toward the outer wall, and yes, the gyp layers aren't directly supported by the 2x8;…
rod gervais, 2 April 2006Andy, why not just remove their portland mix - it shouldn't be all that hard. The chip back the inner slab and dowel some rebar into the wall and slab. At about 5" thick…
rod gervais, 2 April 20061st off - he doesn't have a 4" reinforced slab - he has a couple of inches of grout over some crushed stone and a thin wall pvc drainage pipe. 2nd - with stone and pipe…
rod gervais, 2 April 2006It was my understanding that he did not (as yet) have a new section - which was why Steve posted his sketch....... perhaps I am in left field and this work is completed.…
andy_eade, 3 April 2006Let me first start by saying thank you. I feel honored to have all the heavy hitters in my thread helping me with this issue. Rest assured Rod and Sandersd, and everyone…
sharward, 3 April 2006Hey Andy, Oh my, your laminate floor upstairs is in serious jeopardy. Unless the problem is solved, it's only a matter of time before you get some serous problems up…
Dan Fitzpatrick, 4 April 2006Andy, sorry to hear about the Too Long Screw mistake ... that is an easy mistake to make, I did it myself when beefing up my garage wall ... went outside and found a…
rod gervais, 4 April 2006Andy, actually - you don't need any screws. If you screw a furring strip into the sides of the joist - tight to the underside of the drywall to support it - you could…
andy_eade, 4 April 2006Rod- I had been adding 1x3 ledgers around the perimeter after the second layer of drywall was added. The screws were just to temporarily hold it in place while waiting…

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andy_eade, 4 April 2006unfortunately not - hence the reason for beefing up from below. I started replacing the screws with the 1/4 inch shorter ones and it seems to be fixing the problem. I…
Luftweg, 2 May 2006(... here I go again causing trouble...) Now, this discussion of whether flanking is 'significant enough' really interests me, since my basement studio/room project will…
Dan Fitzpatrick, 2 May 2006well it's true that concrete is massive and has decent sound isolating properties in itself, they are not that great when compared to robust mass-air-mass construction.…
len-morgan, 2 May 2006As Dan said, I'd be worried about the short distance between the studio ceiling and the floor above even with thick concrete. I wonder if you couldn't use those…
andy_eade, 3 May 2006Sorry about the lack of activity from me of late. April was kind of an expected month off from the project for me since my Mum and Dad were visiting for the UK for 2…
Luftweg, 4 May 2006The diagrams above, as I posted, are more like 'theoretical' models... I'm not proposing supporting or directly connecting the inner-leaf ceiling to the top of the…
Dan Fitzpatrick, 4 May 2006there is no way that sound traveling through the wall airspace is going to be worse than the sound that simply travels straight up through your ceiling airspace. i…
andy_eade, 24 May 2006Okay I'm back and have been working down in the basement quite a bit although there is no major progress since the beefing up process is taking so long. After two full…
andy_eade, 22 June 2006OK - I'm back with pictures finally!!! Yes, the last month I have been hard at work every Saturday and weeknight with my room mate who has very graciously jumped in to…
andy_eade, 22 June 2006Hey Keith! Yeah wood is kind of the direction I was leaning in. Oh, and that is Dale my roomie. I need to start marking out on the floor where the wallks will go and…
Luftweg, 23 June 2006The work's looking good..... I too am seriously considering MOSTLY wood framing in the basement (except for the ceiling joists and lintels -- which will be steel due to…
knightfly, 23 June 2006Hygric buffer capacity isn't the ONLY reason for wood framing; even with all that concrete, if your RH will be above 50% (40-42 is ideal) then steel will tend to have…
Luftweg, 24 June 2006I can agree with the assorted values of using wood versus steel.... It may be a particular thing to the Northeast here, but I have not seen any PT at a lumber yard that…

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andy_eade, 19 September 2006Apologies for the lack of response here. I am still alive and well. There has not really been much progress over the past 8 weeks down in the basement for a number of…
andy_eade, 2 October 2006Okay so this isn't just an attempt to keep me on page 1 - I am actually here with an update and question for you. So I have found a carpenter / handyman who is coming…
andy_eade, 2 October 2006No he did at least call. His wife is pregnant so I totally understand his priorities right now. Family comes first always. So my ceiling will not be sitting in the…
andy_eade, 6 October 2006Hey guys. So I’m back with more questions, following a couple of meetings with Carpenters over the last couple of days. Question 1: My original plan for the right hand…
sharward, 6 October 2006So, in short, your stairwell becomes a "sound lock." I like it. :-) The only possible disadvantage I see is that you may have to use more mass material (drywall) in the…
andy_eade, 9 October 2006No not exactly. I probably didn't explain it very well and I think you are thinking of something else. Mind you I do kind of like that idea, and if my final isolation…
knightfly, 9 October 20062 - http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/download.php?id=7991 check the inset, at (B) , see if that helps. If not, http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewt ... &start=165…
andy_eade, 9 October 2006Thanks Steve. I like the one's that you suggested and Aaron created best. These would seem to work best in my situation given that I framing one of my walls some 10…
knightfly, 9 October 2006I don't agree with the no sway idea in your case - if you hard frame to your upper floor, then you'll have a direct flanking path between any footfall noise above and…
Luftweg, 9 October 2006I was wondering about the 2 by 8 baseplate.... In the diagram, all it shows is a sill seal (I'm presuming to be that foam stuff). Do to the usually irregularities in…
andy_eade, 10 October 2006External image, not preserved — original: http://www.bobgolds.com/SwayBraceKineticsCWCA.jpg So I just got off the phone with kinetcs to get a quote on their "off the…
andy_eade, 11 October 2006So I have just finished putting together a document (attatched) for the contractors detailing wall by wall what my detailed requirements are for construction methods…
knightfly, 12 October 2006Jammin - exactly; I tried to design those so off-the-shelf brackets could be used, with maybe just a hacksaw or sawzall, etc. Andy - I read thru most of the "argument"…
andy_eade, 16 October 2006Still hoping to get some feedback on my plan. I see people downloading but not posting - come on peeps! =) In other news I took a look at Home Depot last night to see if…
andy_eade, 20 October 2006I have updated my plan with a few new details and adjustments- 26 people downloaded the last version, but zero people gave me any feedback on what they thought. :( Ummmm…
rod gervais, 20 October 2006Well - it all depends on the ceiling of the laundry/mechanical room I would suppose. Beef up the staircase - and the existing ceiling becomes the weak link. Beef up the…

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knightfly, 23 October 2006Finally got a few minutes to read your PDF - just a couple minor things - Page 2, section #8 - Resilient Channel is NOT the same as "hat channel" - if you use this term…
andy_eade, 23 October 2006Steve - thank you so much for taking the time. That is exactly the kind of feedback I was looking for. As we all know with music - sometimes your too close on to…
andy_eade, 30 October 2006In talking with the Rep at Mason (a very worthewhile experience and I can highly recommend their proffesionalism), we decided that given my application; that their AB716…
andy_eade, 30 October 2006in other news, I scoped out angle iron at Home Depot today it runs about $10 per 36" length, then add about $3 per strip for the neoprene - not a bad saving! Also...…
andy_eade, 30 October 2006Sorry about all the posts today, but there's lots going on. So having talked with the Crapenter (typo, but decided to keep it anyway) and John about the one room…
sharward, 30 October 2006First of all, I'm not in favor of the DIY wall brace concept. Sorry. I just think there's too much opportunity for error. Suppliers specialize in making these things and…
andy_eade, 31 October 2006Keith, I totally understand and appreciate your reluctance to use an untested product. I think that's one of the principles of this forum if I'm not mistaken - don't go…
andy_eade, 5 November 2006I got pictures!!!! Yes - major progress today. Thew crew arrived around 8am, and just left here around 9.30pm - damn! These guys were hard workers. Only a couple of…
andy_eade, 5 November 2006Hi Kendale, Thanks for writing - particularly given all that you've had going on lately!! So there will be insulation, but it's not as it seems in the pics. If you look…
andy_eade, 6 November 2006Hey Marc, See pic 5 and all should make sense. The reason it looks confusing is becasue I had to add drywall to the inside of the studs as the hot water heater and A/C…
guitardad72, 6 November 2006AHHH, I scanned through all the pics in your thread. I think I got it. You will have no drywall on the "water heater" side of the 2x4 wall. You are having drywall on the…
guitardad72, 6 November 2006Good eye Keith, Then again it looks as if this guys are toe nailing the studs in, not tipping the walls into place. Maybe there are a few more peices here and there to…
andy_eade, 7 November 2006Thanks guys. Yeah I will ask them about that - after all they are the ones coming back to mount the doors and windows. They have seen both and have a good idea of the…
andy_eade, 7 November 2006So I'm starting to figure out how I want to run cable from the CR to the studio. The question is whether I use stage snakes or wall plates. I'm thinking that the…

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guitardad72, 14 November 2006Hey Andy, I'm going to take back my comments (when I agreed with Keith) that your door and window frames weren't framed correctly. I'm not saying they could not be…
andy_eade, 14 November 2006Marc - thank you so much for giving me the update following your research. I really apreciate you taking the time to post your findings. You're absolutely right about me…
guitardad72, 14 November 2006I would mention in to them, get there opinion . I think you would have to post the planned specs of your doors & windows and let when of the real pros give you an…
andy_eade, 22 January 2007Sorry it's take such a while to take, and post these pics, but here they are finally. Close ups of the doors / windows as well as some of the new electrical work…
andy_eade, 23 January 2007Good news! The building inspector came yesterday and passed me on all three rough-in inspections - Framing, Electrical and Mechanical. He even commented on how well…
andy_eade, 12 February 2007Hey Kevin - yes I will be doing two doors between the control room and performance room, and also between the PR and rest of house. The frames will be custom made by the…
knightfly, 12 February 2007Sorry I didn't get back sooner - a few things that bother me: http://www.hammerzone.com/archives/wind ... raming.htm This is the way to frame a window (or door, without…
andy_eade, 12 February 2007Yes Marc - that is a pre-existing soffit that covers a whole bunch of plumbing, electrical and duct work. It's unfortunate but there is no way around it. I was going to…
andy_eade, 9 March 2007So there's been lot's of progress since my last post. I finished up all the insulation and FSK paper on the exterior walls, the electrician got finished with the…

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andy_eade, 12 March 2007Yeah they're all for the track lighting (everything is surface mount), and there is one switch for a recording light which goes out in the stairwell entrey to the…
andy_eade, 12 March 2007Hindsight tip Picked up a nice little tip from the drywall contractors over the last couple days that works like a charm (Maybe this was already obvious to you, but not…
andy_eade, 17 March 2007DRYWALL DONE!!! Yep - the 3rd layer is done and here are the pictures to prove it. I actually ran out of the OSI caulk, and my friend brought me a leftover box of…
sharward, 17 March 2007Congratulations, Andy Eade!! :-D This a great milestone and a great one to achieve before your birthday trip across the pond, too! Hey, your observations about OSI vs.…
andy_eade, 19 April 2007SO in the spirit of "no pictures - didn't happen". Here are some updated pictures from about 2 weeks back. I need to take same as of now (paint is up on walls an…
andy_eade, 19 April 2007Sorry about the quality of these next one's. I'm clearly no photographer! =) I will post the latest one's with paint very soon - it's all starting to come together now!…
sharward, 19 April 2007Oh, MAAAANNNNN -- what a story, Andy! :? I surely would have had the same problem if I had someone working for me because my stapled Romex is also not precisely measured…
andy_eade, 19 April 2007I know Keith - it has been quite a year! So the solution was complex to say the least. For the performance Room: Remove two of the tracks, and move the romex back…
andy_eade, 19 April 2007Oooh one other piece of hindsight advice if you use a contractor for the sheetrock. mark on the floor wherever there is cable that should be pulled through. That way if…
andy_eade, 22 September 2008Hey Guys. First of all let me get the apologies out of the way. It's been such a hectic time since I last posted. The studio is 90% complete, I'm now engaged, and even…
andy_eade, 25 May 2011It's been quite a crazy couple of years for me so my apologies for not being around. My wife and I did not hang around and were blessed to bring a wonderful little boy…
andy_eade, 29 November 2011We're going to be doing another two video webcasts next week :yahoo: Wednesday Dec 7th @ 9pm (EST), and Sunday Dec 11th @ 3pm (GMT) The first hour or so will be…
andy_eade, 22 September 2013For anyone that found interest in this build thread, I'm both excited and nervous to announce that I'm starting all over again. Our family has further expanded and we…
andy_eade, 31 January 2014I finally got around to totaling up my expenses for this past build. I thought I should analyze this before starting on the new studio and I'm glad I did. In brief, I…
andy_eade, 7 March 2014Yeah no kidding. I think subconsciously I knew I spent way more than planned which is perhaps why it took me a few years to pluck up the courage and add up all the…