Key posts: I forgot to add ROCKWOOL to floating floor. What to do?
Substantial posts by alexfigueira, who started the thread, and by the forum’s most active contributors. 49 of 104 posts are listed.
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alexfigueira, 12 August 2008Hello guys, I've spent several weeks researching on the best options to build my room within a room budget studio on my garage. I've read countless PDF's, word docs,…
alexfigueira, 12 August 2008Thanks a million for replying so quick, guys. Really appreciated. You are absolutely right. Even when it can't stop me from felling like the biggest turd in the whole…
Ro, 12 August 2008Alex, I would advise to stop for a moment, breath and take a few days of reading this forum and Rod's book. Yes it's for sale at boll.com :) a MUST HAVE. Floating a…
alexfigueira, 13 August 2008Hi Ro, Thanks for the advice once more. Any input is really appreciated. I've already stopped to get some more info before I carry on. But I cannot wait for long and…
alexfigueira, 13 August 2008I forgot to add where I got the idea of building the floating floor on top of a bunch of old tires. One of my favourite producers, Bosco Mann, from DAPTONE RECORDS,…
alexfigueira, 14 August 2008Indeed!!! The very same studio. Believe it or not, that's the studio where the best old school (I mean, really old schooL!!!!!) Soul and Funk records are being made…
alexfigueira, 14 August 2008I've seen a couple of posts where the moderator of the forum recommends EPDM instead of neoprene, based on longevity. I can easily find relatively cheap EPDM but the…
rod gervais, 15 August 2008Alex, tell ya what - just cause I like ya - I'll give you my best advice.... tear out the floor and don't put it back. The auralex u-boats are a joke - you have no…
alexfigueira, 16 August 2008Thanks a lot, Rod. In most of the books I read, the floating floor was considered part of the "room within a room" structure, which is what I'm going to build. The…
alexfigueira, 16 August 2008Thanks a lot vonrock. But before I reply to your message let me say something to Xspace, who replied just before you. I would thanks you as well, but I prefer not to. By…
alexfigueira, 17 August 2008As for the DAPTONE discussion, I honestly think there is nothing to be discussed. Listen to their records. They kick ass like no million dollar super fancy studio does.…
Ro, 17 August 2008So, Alex... You want real advise or just wanna hear your plans rock!? It's, in the end, all up to you. No doubt. If you "feel" like doin' right, then that's the plan. I…
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Ro, 17 August 2008Alright... What does it take to get a good record.. A floating floor or a good engineer (and musicians for that matter!) Forget about DAPTONE, sure they make excellent…
alexfigueira, 17 August 2008xSpace, you are realling making it up with all these great links. Thanks a lot. I would still like to see Rod's opinion on the questions I asked them. I know he hates…
AVare, 18 August 2008Alex: This is an instant course in floating floors. It is physics and engineering. No subjective concepts. Floating floors form Mass-Spring-Mass (MAM) systems. In studio…
rod gervais, 18 August 2008Build the floor like anyone would build a floor - and then fill it to the brim with sand....... Not very effective at all - that is why I said "some small benefit" - but…
alexfigueira, 18 August 2008Thanks guys for the replies. You are all REALLY patient. I know I said I would stop reading and I will go further with the floated floor but now that I took the plywood…
alexfigueira, 18 August 2008Indeed, Ro the ceiling is my weakest link, no doubt about it, so I'm gonna put extra effort into it, together with the doors (a guaranteed pain in the ass on all…
rod gervais, 18 August 2008I think you should re-read that chapter. 1st question - why would you throw away laminate flooring just to cover it with carpet? That's a lot of money. Better than…
alexfigueira, 19 August 2008Rod, I don't need to read the chapter again. I know you state the disvantage of the staggered studds very clearly. But the independent walls system is gonna take even…
alexfigueira, 20 August 2008Guys, Would you mind helping a little further? I have a few more questions that I couldn't find on any other posts (I tried my best!). Please see the (crappy) drawing…
alexfigueira, 20 August 2008MY apologies, guys. I'm still a rookie, but I learn very fast! Link is fixed, Ro. As for the centimeters, Edo, the studs would be 50 cm x 75 cm. Right now I'm trying to…
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alexfigueira, 21 August 2008Guys, The double frame is to increase insulation. In Rod's book says it's the best option. Better than staggered studs and single frame. And for the ceiling, yes, there…
alexfigueira, 21 August 2008No volunteers so far, I'm afraid, but I have to take decisions. THerefore, I'm gonna go for the 2x4. They are bigger, then stronger. It's just a pity that they are gonna…
rod gervais, 21 August 2008Alex, what do you mean 1/2 meter - that's 19 5/8" - even 2 2x6 frames only eat up 13" allowing for 1" of air space inside of the outer walls - you don't add the drywall…
alexfigueira, 21 August 2008Rod, I'm confused. This is what I read on your book, pages 59 and 62: "staggered stud system. Advantages include greater isolation than the use of single frame walls and…
alexfigueira, 21 August 2008Ok, great. I deleted the whole reply. Jezus. First let me explain about the half meter. The studs (that you call 2x4)have 5cm by 10 cm. They face the concrete walls…
Ro, 21 August 2008Alex, I don't get it that 1/2 meter either. Your frame could be 10cm. The airspace can be 2,5cm. 2 layers of 12,5=2,5 cm of drywall. Total: 2,5+10+5,2=15cm. You have 2…
alexfigueira, 21 August 2008You're right about the triple leaf design, Edo. The black are the concrete walls and floor. But I thought the double frame wouldn't contribute to this scenario,…
Ro, 21 August 2008Alex, That is, as Edo pointed out, a triple leaf system. You need M-A-M (Mass, Air (spring), Mass). Yours is a M-A-M-A-M system. There's plenty of info about that...…
alexfigueira, 21 August 2008GUys, Is not like I'm stupid or that I don't pay attention to what you tell me. Please don't think like this for a second. I've read Rod's book three times. Is just…
alexfigueira, 22 August 2008Good advise, guys. I have a notebook dedicated to rules from now on. I realised that my project is pretty much of a mess. And that is simply due to the fact that I…
alexfigueira, 23 August 2008Got your point xSpace. I already thought about it. It might sound ridiculous but I put a lot of aluminum foil on the inner side of the glass, in order to reflect the…
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alexfigueira, 23 August 2008I guess when you say garage rooms you mean the neighboring garages. Actually they are not opened from one garage to the next. It looks like a huge, super long window but…
alexfigueira, 24 August 2008Well, there is a small opening on the top of the glass, where the two sides meet. On the picture you can see like a metal stripe. Under that stripe, there is a small gap…
alexfigueira, 24 August 2008You are right, it will disappear with the treatment of the room but what I was trying to say is that insulation-wise, the thin layer of concrete with a long air gap on…
AVare, 24 August 2008One of the acoustics is so difficult to learn is that almost nothing is what or intuitive. I used the last word because I could not think of a better way to describe it…
alexfigueira, 24 August 2008Thanks for the feedback, Andre. You are absolutely right about the intuition. That's the reason why I put all those drawings and have been waiting for response. When…
alexfigueira, 25 August 2008OK, new developments. The ceilings is in the process of being tore down. It's a shit lot of work but is already worth it. I've found some fungus on the top plywood, just…
alexfigueira, 26 August 2008Yes guys, the fungus is because of the crap roof that was installed long ago. It leaked more than once. This garage has a long list of careless former owners. What I was…
alexfigueira, 30 August 2008No replies so far but I'm gonna give you an update anyway. All the nasty concrete is long gone. It looks so much nicer with just the wood. I don't understand why they…
alexfigueira, 30 August 2008The ventilation will be mechanic. I will add extensions to the pipe bringing fresh air and to the pipe extracting the hot air (they call them "T's". I will put a couple…
alexfigueira, 31 August 2008No, that's not a problem. Both adjacent garages have their own access to fresh air as this gap is common to the whole row of garages. The problem is that it won't…
alexfigueira, 31 August 2008Thanks for the comments guys. This is a particularly important part of the process. I actually believe is the most delicate. The ventilation is there for one simple…
Ro, 3 September 2008Adding mechanical ventilation to a air-tight-room is a must, but not hard to construct. You need 2 pipe fans to suck and blow air in/out. The refresh rate (per hour) can…
alexfigueira, 4 September 2008Thanks Ro. I already know about the importance of the ventilation. Many friends suggested to just open the doors every now and then but I always knew this wouldn't be a…
alexfigueira, 2 January 2009Hello guys, I'm really sorry it's taken me this long to post any reply but the truth is I haven't done much on the studio since the last I posted. I had to stop due to…
alexfigueira, 17 December 2009Hello everyone, This thread was literally dead, but the same doesn't apply for my project. I'm done. And the result is quite satisfactory. Thanks to all who believed in…
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alexfigueira, 19 December 2009Thank you guys, always nice to hear. Well, life has this irony sometimes... I spent almost 15 months building. I'm going on vacation next sunday (bought the ticket 6…