I am curious . . what kind of music do you play???
FINISHED IN 2020! Sharward's Partial Garage Conversion
Originally posted at johnlsayers.com, topic 2921.
I'm a drummer, and my favorite genre is progressive metal. I hope to form a band along those lines when I'm done building.
I just received official word that I'll be performing in a Weekend Warriors group on November 13. The plan is to do '80s power rock covers.
Thanks for asking! 8)
--Keith :mrgreen:
It's about time you got started on this project. :lol: Nice to see the first pics of progress...
And the tedious part...you've only begun... :wink:
Yeah, Aaron -- just wait 'til I start busting up concrete! :shock:
I feel negelectd . . nobody resopnds to my thread . . . . . :cry: :cry:
http://johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2718&start=30
Don't hate me because I'm beautiful... :twisted:
Mark, we don't have many members who feel qualified to answer questions on possible life-threatening situations (supports, etc) and I've been running around like a chicken with you-know-what cut off - there are only a couple other heavy construction types I'm aware of in the membership, and one of them (Rod) is at least as buried as I am.
I posted in your thread just a minute ago, sorry you're feeling neglected - it's not intentional, just life (as in, "the crap that happens to you while you're busy making plans").
soon... Steve
And of course I am . . . ahhhh . . . messing with you . . . I actually consult for a civil engineering firm . . except I am the electrical engineer . . . Those guys are crunching the loads and stresses for me . . . I think my question was more intended towards . . . studio conventions . . . what would be functional-creative-fun . . . . not structural analysis. . . . .
I had some wine and no longer feel neglected anyhow . . . . 8) 8)
Cool! An electrical type guy! We can put him to use around here now and then, eh Steve? :twisted:
Well, as my artificial 4-day weekend comes to a close, I'm still not done with the triple 1/2" beef-up. :x I've got 14 of 19 bays filled. Pretty good progress, but not the state of doneness that I had been aiming for.
Oh well -- no biggie. There are no negative consequences of this other than just generally being hard on myself. ;-)
One bay was afflicted with an extremely crooked stud that my first layer was snug at the top and left about :shock: 5/8" :shock: of gap on each side of the panel towards the bottom! :evil: I decided to use acoustic sealant to fill in the gaps of this bay. It worked pretty well -- I used a plastic putty knife to smooth it in. I did the same thing with layer #2. Layer #3 was more of a custom fit -- cut oversize and trimmed to fit the cavity (what a pain :?).
Based on this sealant/knife experience, I have pretty much decided that I will attenpt to fill in the worst of the gaps with this technique. I already have the wall sealed -- this is just to ensure that most of the gaps aren't totaly inferior to the detriment of mid-range TL.
I'm holding off posting any pictures of the progress... You'll see 'em when the 1/2" stuff is all done, ready for the final 5/8" + Green Glue layer.
--Keith :mrgreen:
Yay! I'm done installing the 1/2" stuff! 8)
I've been using the sealant on and off, depending on the size of the edge gaps. I'll probably work on more sealing tomorrow. When that's done I'll post pics.
My Green Glue arrived on Friday, so there won't be much rest before I "finish off" the east and west walls with the final layer of 5/8" stuff.
--Keith :mrgreen:
East wall gaps now sealed up and ready for 4th layer with Green Glue. Here are the pix. I'll try to get the west wall gaps sealed up tomorrow.
I talked with my gardner buddy on Sunday afternoon. We have tentatively scheduled concrete cutting for Sunday the 30th. My goal is to finish up the 4th layer of beef before, then put up the "OSB shilelds" to protect the walls from the forthcoming concrete work.
Holy crap -- concrete work! :shock:
"Concrete Work"
Unlike "Military Intelligence", "Marital Bliss", "Management Decision", this is NOT, repeat NOT, an oxymoron... :?
Oh, I forgot to mention -- so far I have used 29 tubes of acoustic sealant -- I have 31 left.
Sooo, only 27 more CASES to buy, right??!? :wink:
Ha :lol: Well, I used an awful lot of it to fill the fat gaps resulting from the imperfect studs. I will probably use another five to ten on the west wall, but I expect not to need as much for the "conventional" walls because the gaps will (hopefully) be more consistent.
So, what you're telling me is that the 11 tubes I've got aren't going to get me very far in my beef up scheme, eh?
Rock on!
Not if you follow my beef-up practices you're not... :( However, I leave room for the possibility that I could have done it better. The twisted, bowed, and otherwise f&#*ed-up studs presented a lot of challenges -- albeit nowhere near as bad as the infamous "wavy stucco syndrome" that afflicts Dan and Mike.
I've gone to great lengths to avoid the dreaded third leaf. However, given all the imperfections of the beef-up, I have to wonder if I would have been better off living with and compensating for the third leaf. :roll:
I'm taking a bit of a break from my construction work to look up Green Glue instructions (there weren't any delivered with my case :evil:). Today I managed to move four 4x10 sheets of drywall by myself using a piano dolly as my helper from the pile on the floor to the far west wall behind all our crap -- no breakage! :twisted: Now I have nothing left on the floor except the 5/8" stuff that I'm now preparing to apply to each of the stud bays with Green Glue and screws.
Mrs. Sharward really appreciates my efforts to keep the garage as clean and clear as possible. So far neither car has had to spend the night outdoors. And for that, neither have I! ;)
Argh -- I miscounted my 5/8" sheets -- ends up I'm going to have to retrieve the one I "hid" behind all the crap! :evil: Oh well... :roll:
Things are going well with the final layer. I'm done with 5 of the 19 bays. I could have done more, but I wanted to take the lady out to dinner, call it a night, and then get a fairly early start tomorrow.
Here's a pic of one of the panels going up with green glue all over it. I'm using a little less than 1/2 tube per panel. According to the instructions, the recommended amount of glue is two tubes per 4x8 sheet, which is about one tube per 16 square feet, which is one tube per 2,304 square inches. Each of my panels is about 1624 square inches, so I'm applying about 70-75% of the recommended amount of glue. However, page 7 of the instructions does say that using less glue is OK, albeit with slightly less performance. Given the facts (this is "icing on the cake" (The beef cake? :shock: Ew! :shock:), I only have 12 tubes on hand, I need to stretch them to all 19 bays, and the goo is bloody expensive), I think it will be OK.
The Green Glue is pretty interesting to work with. It comes out of the tube very easily -- it's not thick and heavy like the Liquid Nails or the acoustic sealant. It's very light, like a cross between shave cream and shave gel. It's very sticky though -- it does clean off skin with soap and water, but it takes two or three vigorous washings to get it off!
--Keith :mrgreen:
I finally beefed up those odd narrow cavities in the east wall. Each is filled with two 2x4s and lots of acoustic sealant. One of the cavities was a little wider than the other so I managed to shove a bit of wallboard between the 2x4s.
I'm about halfway through adding the 4th layer to all the bays. I'll be busy finishing that up tomorrow.
Whew! I'm done with my east and west wall beef-up! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Well, almost -- I still need to seal all the edges, which I'll tend to this week.
Man, what a pain this effort was. I'm glad I didn't have to beef up a ceiling! :shock: I offer my condolences to those who must endure that.
I used 17 of the 1/2" boards -- 3 are left over, stored behind all the crap. I used all 6 of the 5/8" boards. I used 10 3/4 tubes of Green Glue -- 1 1/4 are left over. I'll need to buy more Green Glue at some point.
I have about 17 1/2 tubes of sealant left -- probably enough to seal all the beef. In any event, the sealant is easy to get.
I'll post pics when the sealing is done.
In other news, our water heater died last night... :evil: I think it's the igniter. The home warranty company will probably have someone out on Monday. Thank goodness for this little beauty -- at least I can shave with hot water! :idea:
--Keith :mrgreen:
mucho props to you. I appreciate all the documenting of your room/walls. I feel this will help me in the near future with a project I will be sharing soon :) . I'm not getting much sleep these days since I found this website. But thats totally cool.
Woo-hoo -- My newest fan! :lol: Thanks for the kind words. 8)
20,000 views reached today! 8)
Excellent news! :D I reserved the walk-behind concrete cutter for Sunday, and my landscaping buddy will indeed be able to help me! :mrgreen:
Holy crap! :shock: It's really happening! :!: :!: :!:
Oh, and by the way, the water heater dying was my own fault. The pilot light was out. I was able to relight it myself. Note to self: Be more careful when clearing out the garage with a leafblower! :lol:
--Keith :mrgreen:
Heh, heh... that's funny. The pilot light thing, I mean.
We once had to have an electrician come to our house and trace circuits around for a couple hours to figure out that the GFI plug outside had tripped. DOH!