Small garden studio & control room

Started by Roguejackal on 21 December 2010. 226 replies, 2010–2016. In the Library under Build diaries. Key posts in this thread.

Originally posted at johnlsayers.com, topic 15407.

Starting to get there, a few more pictures
My Daikin aircon is fitted and has made such a difference now there's a bit of heat in the room, The install was very neat, a 65mm diameter hole was drilled through the wall :( but this was sleeved and then once the pipes etc were pushed through was caulked up completely inside and outside, then some more caulk before the 'boxing glove' was fixed, Here's a few pictures of the internal and external unit, once I build my live room there will be another external unit fixed above the first one and another internal unit in the new room, as for noise of the internal unit I really struggle to hear it when it's running on economy and I'm standing in the room with complete silence, wether a mic will pick it up when recording, I don't know but so far I'm very happy :D
Have painted the concrete floor with a 2 part waterproof paint that dries as hard as a resin, each coat is the same just different colours so its easy to see where you've already painted
Skirting to be done and painted next then its a break as need to do a bit of paving in the garden,
practice for my sons band is tight and a little noisy :D But when there all going for it with doors closed on the room and the main entrance door closed, standing at the back door of my house I cannot hear the band playing at all, :yahoo: not very technical I know but I am very happy with the build so far.
Haven't posted for a while as have been busy doing some work in the garden, brick walls and some slabs, also some stonework around my koi pond I'm hoping to be finished in the next 2 weeks so be able to get on with the studio build phase 2, the live room :lol: I have been really pleased with the control room which is small admittedly but my son has been using it for band practice at least twice a week and no problems from noise levels causing complaints from neighbours, however I am seriously contemplating going for a 3.00m ceiling height and maybe slightly beefing up some more on the stud work for the live room, has anyone any idea the effect replacing 15mm plasterboard with 19mm thick plasterboard will have? Also will an extra 25mm air gap make a huge difference as this room is a little bigger I could afford to go for 125mm air gap instead of 100mm?
Good to see you still around! :)
has anyone any idea the effect replacing 15mm plasterboard with 19mm thick plasterboard will have? Also will an extra 25mm air gap make a huge difference as this room is a little bigger I could afford to go for 125mm air gap instead of 100mm?
If you can give me the full details of what you are planning, then I can figure it out for you, theoretically. In terms of how many layers you are thinking of for each side of the wall, what type of plasterboard (fire rated, or not), amount of insulation in the cavity, etc. But yes, in general increasing from 100 to 125mm gap would have a good positive effect: that's a 25% increase in air gap. Also going from 15mm to 19mm will have a good positive effect: that's a bit more than 25% increase in mass. The combination of both would be extra positive! If you can afford the space, then go for it. - Stuart -
Hi Stuart thanks for replying, I have a chance possibly of obtaining some 90mm metal studs and some 19mm plasterboard from a construction site I am working on, as the tackers are nearly finished and there ganger has said what ever is over I can have for a 'drink', well the pallet of 19mm plasterboard is completely un-touched so there would be enough to do 2 skins together if I can get it all though I was planning to use a layer of 18mm ply first for stregnth, I'v also never used this metal stud do I still use conventional timbers for the ceiling joists as I already have 150mm x 100mm timbers for this. The live room is not big but the space I have is what is available so the build would be the same as for the control room, outside walls are 100mm concrete blocks inside face to be rendered to seal the blocks, roof is slate on 12mm OSB all joints sealed with 100mm rockwool insulation. The dividing wall between the control room and the live room is already built as this is 150mm concrete blocks and stone which you can see in the previous pictures, coming off this will be 3 stud walls with an entrance door, previously on the control room i had built the stud work 30mm of the outside walls using 68mm x 48mm timbers because space was so tight and then filled with glass fibre/ rock wool with 18mm ply and then 15mm plasterboard then plaster finish. If the increase of the air space was to 130mm and 2 layers of 19mm plasterboard instead of the control room spec what would be the approximate increase in isolation? If there are not enough sheets of 19mm plasterboard for 2 layers I will go for 1 layer of 18mm plywood and 1 layer of 19mm plasterboard.
Hi Stuart, could you give me an idea of the increase in isolation between my control room spec of 100mm concrete block rendered outside wall then 100mm air space filled with fibre glass, 18mm plywood, 15mm plasterboard, plaster skim finish, live room possible spec of 100mm concrete block rendered outside wall then 130mm air space filled with fibre glass, 2 skins of 19mm plasterboard and plaster skim finish
Hi Stuart, wonder if you could reply to my post with a slight alteration in the spec of the live room build is 100mm concrete block with sand cement render to inside and outside, 130mm air space with 1 layer of 15mm OSB board and 2 layers of 19mm plasterboard, finished with a plaster skim finish?
Cramped but practice is possible in the small control room for my son's band Stocking up with some materials for the live room build :D Some of the equipment after the build is complete
An old shed foundation in the way of my new dig for the live room foundation dig that i have had to break out and remove More photos to come, I'm hoping to get the foundations dug and concreted with the block work out the ground this weekend if the weather holds
My extra concrete foundation I added to my end shed wall foundation after I had decided to go down in the ground for the studio last year, gonna need to dry pack that void to be safe before doing the build against it :roll: foundation in and have started to block up to DPC with the stone left from my pond filter build, 1200 gauge polythene then laid against the wall on the outside and 75mm fibre reinforced waterproof concrete to the outside below ground. :D
damp course on Old shed concrete bases to be broken up so I can level the soil off ready for building up the concrete block work
old shed concrete slab that I'v had to break out Getting there with the block work
Up to plate height in the week so over the weekend I'v managed to get the wood work of the roof done, + netted the underside ready to insulate and board over next. How the rest of the roof looks,
Its looking you have small space in your garden as you have explained in you pictures. If your interior contents is suitable for this space then it will be fine. I think it will be a good atmosphere for your son to practice. Good Luck [SPAM SIGNATURE DELETED BY MODERATOR]
Insulation and then OSB stirling board, before tyvack sheeting, Completed with additional battens to hold insulation up,
View of the viewing window from the tracking room looking into what will be the control room An additional bit of security for the main entrance :)
Exterior near the entrance battens and insulation to be boarded with timber waterproof fibre re-inforced render coat on inside walls down to dpc level to seal and add mass to the concrete block walls this will be also done on the exterior walls where the live room and control room are, inside this will be continued all the way down to floor level once the dig inside is done, Window between the tracking room and control room viewed from the tracking room, the bulk of this wall is 6" concrete blocks along with the limestone an sandstone that is thicker and denser than the concrete blocks this wall has 2 coats of fibre reinforced water proof render on the control room side before the interior stud walls were built,
The dig on going over the weekend with 2 helpers, :D Matt the bassist in my sons band and my stepson Gavin who writes & records his own music will be using the studio as well and supplying a lot of the control room equipment, as you can see a lot of soil below dpc level to come out, The dig finished on Sunday afternoon, view of the entrance door into the tracking room,
all rendering finished on the inside of the exterior wall, only a rough finish as will never be seen as will be in my air space, Foundation overspill trimmed up so I can isolate the interior slab for the studwork and floor from the foundation