JB's Studio Part II, Design Stage

I will be using 2x4 lumber for the framing. 2x6 for the ceiling beams Yes. exactly. You build it on the ground, and then lift it up/nail them. Its pretty easy, at least it was in my other room I built

John, I was thinking on another design Instead of puting the 2 6x2 beams in the middle and then rectangular modules for each side; Puting the two beams at 1/3 of the room's lenght, and then small rectangular modules in each row ( 3 rows total). I didnt have time now to draw it, hope you get the idea

We built a concrete slab for the room and gained half a meter of height!

Some pickies.. maybe now people start looking in here :( :mrgreen: As you can se, concrete slab is done and we gained a lot of height (the ugly part of the wall) We started framing.. Obviously, we made a mistaky and build an entire wall on the ground.. it weighted like 500 kilos !! We needed almost 7 strong men to lift it up.... leason learned: Now, we build the walls by parts and join them together. The construction is 2x4 lumber with 3 layers of 5/8" drywall.

Hey looking good. I don't have any answers for your ceiling questions. I assume you've thought about damp course and all that jazz for you sunken room?

What you mean?? :|

Hmm, I mean have you dug down into the ground to gain height? If so, is it damp proof. Hang on i'm going to read from the start again.

heavy wall.... uhu. :mrgreen: keep them pix comming so we KNOW yer actually doin' anything, unlike me.. lazy bumm. :) cheers!

Yes we took care of moisture. It was already sealed by the old construction below the floor joists I'll keep them going ro :D

We got budget again! So construction has continued. I'll post pictures

Framing done Caulking done Elec conduits for lights and outlets done Snake conduits for two control rooms done (i'll put a video camera for my studio :mrgreen: ) Looking good Now we'll make the angled walls for the slots The back wall will be with stones. 8)

Hello Javier, Did you make that ceiling like your skp. file: drum ceiling? I'm in the same process like you were in couple of months ago, desinging my live room inside out ceiling :shock: My inside ceiling span gonna be about 2,6m only and I'm figuring out should I use 2x6" or 2x4" modules :D By the way, your first desing/construction thread was very helpful and informative. Thanks for sharing that :D -janne

Yes. I basically did what i've dsigned. Two 2x6 beams and 2x4 modules As far as Im concerned. 2x4 modules should be enough for that span lenght!

I'm gonna start inviting some hot girl friends for the next build pictures. maybe you get more exited :mrgreen:

Hai Javier, Pix look cool, despite the lack of cuties. :) Great work, how many layers of ceiling GB is that? (I'm currently in the progress of adding GB to a 20m2 ceiling myself, PITA... but all worth it)

Thanks Ro The ceiling is 2 layers of 5/8" or 15mm

Urgent Question Since I did this room INSIDE OUT, and I plan to put stones on the back wall. I'll be creating a 3rd leaf because I need to install a flat surface (like another drywall or plywood) to have the stones glued. How can I avoid this? Leaving gaps between the flat surface so it acts more like a resonator than a 3rd leaf? Any suggestions? (obviously, I should have built that wall "normal" , but too late)

Sawing big circels in that existing wall with a jig saw? (er zijn van die geleiders om dit te doen = kan someone translate this?) :twisted: Fun: I tried web translaters: Given: Wipzaag met geleider (Dutch):

• "Google translate" translates this as: "Vacuum Cleaners with conductor"
• Foxlingo translates this as: "hopping saw with slide"

THanks Erick In that case I rather cutting holes on the new leaf (a drywall or osb sheet to have a flat surface to put the stones) because on the existing wall there is 3 layers of 5/8drywall What do you think?

jbassino wrote:

What do you think?

I'm not sure how you can handle this in an aesthetic manner.

Well, even if I cut holes on the osb sheet, those will be covered later by the stones

I hate to say this, Javier, since I know how much work and money went into that wall, but I'd say that your best bet is cut the drywall off the outside of those studs, throw it away, and put some new drywall on the inside. In other words, convert it from "inside out" to "normal". Then you can put up all the stone you want. That's a real tough choice to make, but if you want both the aesthetics and the acoustics, then that would be the best way to go, I think. If even Eric can't think of another way to do it, then that pretty much says it all. The good thing about that is that you'd gain several inches of air gap inside your wall, which is good for improving your isolation! - Stuart -

What you have to do is incorporate the framing into the stone, the look is what you are after. If may take a few attempts and it may take some more trim lumber, stain or paint that either matches the stone in a fashion or resembles the mortar that you will be using. I was thinking that you could take some 1X2 and build a face trim to go over the studs, stained , painted, whatever you like the best. Sleep on it, because you know as well as I do, you are not going to cut holes in that wall :) But you will loose the inside-out built in absorption. That has to be taken into consideration and could very well be incorporated into the stone pattern/absorption/stone pattern in between the framing bays.

Thanks for the advices guys! Honestly, I don't mind the inside out absorption in that wall, i just fucked it up in the first place. because I thought we were going to use REAL stones, big ones, directly glued on the drywall between the studs, so the stones + drywall just count as a one leaf. However, we need to use some precut stone bricks that are easy to glue and good looking. Like you said Xspace, Maybe if I directly put the stone bricks on the existing drywall, and then find a way to "cover" the exposed studs with something may work, but honestly i dont know how thats gonna look because the stone bricks are not that thick and we have a 2x4 lumber of dept Stuart. If i tell my partner we have to cut all that way, hes gonna kill me literally. they almost died lifting up that wall ! What if I just put wool and cover the wall with OSB? Wont it act like a low mid bass trap? More ideas or suggestions are VERY WELCOME! Thanks

Is this real stone, Javier? Or is it that fake fiberglass stuff that looks very realistic? How thick is it? Also, does the entire wall have to be stone, or can it just be in some places? I'm thinking that xSpace has a good idea with trying to make it fit in with the framing, but not quote sure how you'd do that. - Stuart -