Rod: Type "K" Trunk Rubber?

Soooooo... studio_drums Is catalog number MU738864 the correct one? That is the one that I ordered. You mention that they screwed your order up twice. Let me know if that is the correct catalog number. Thanks!

That appears to be the correct stock #. I can't tell you for sure, though, since I'm still waiting too! But that's probably it.

we don't have a JC-W here and when i went to te GM Dealers they keep asking me: what is the Car type and model :twisted: i showed them the picture from Rod's Boock , but they still did not know if they had it or not , do ANY of you guys know the exact GM Part number for this Type K Trunk rubber so they can search for it easly or in which GM car it is ?

M300SEL wrote:

we don't have a JC-W here and when i went to te GM Dealers they keep asking me: what is the Car type and model :twisted: i showed them the picture from Rod's Boock , but they still did not know if they had it or not , do ANY of you guys know the exact GM Part number for this Type K Trunk rubber so they can search for it easly or in which GM car it is ?

M, Those trun gaskets were used in a great number of different models - which is why they have so many models (over so many years) - compared to so little different types of trunk gasketing. I am amazed that dealers have problems matching it up with a picture........ Rod

rod gervais wrote:

I am amazed that dealers have problems matching it up with a picture........ Rod

Actually, most of those guys nowadays depend on the computer 100%. If they cannot search for it in the computer, they cannot find it. That is what I experienced when I went to the GM dealer. They need some firm data to input into the computer, a picture does not help most of them. Maybe some of the older guys that have been around for a while can recognize it from a photo, but the younger guys just enter part numbers (or model/year numbers) and pull a bag off of the shelf without really knowing (or caring ) what is inside the bag. i am not surprised at all to be honest.

DH, I understand what you're saying - but if you walk back into the parts department they probably have it in stock - and those boys generally know their products............. This isn't like we are inventing the wheel here........ Rod

I think it's 1950-59 GM cars- cadillacs I think. There may be more than one. It's in the JC Whitney's printed catalog. But who knows if that's right. I just called them. They don't know the answer. It's right there printed in their catalog, yet they can't answer the question. That company is so screwed up it's not even funny anymore. It's just plain sad.

Did you ever get your seals? Mine still have not shown up... Grrr......

studio_drums i dont think this is a valid GM part number , i used http://www.gmpartsdirect.com to search for it and it says there is no part with that number do you know which cadillac make and model has it ? that would be very helpfull .

That part # is JC Whitney's stock #- not GM's. The contractor and I tried using the wrong stuff they had sent me: http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/Item ... 0000225091 ...but the rubber was too stiff and didn't compress. Instead of compressing the rubber, the whole hinge jam was torquing out. Thanks JCWhitney! I'm out 100 bucks plus the contractor has to come back to redo the seals(more money)!!!!!!!! I got the correct rubber today- it is softer and more compressible- you can tell by squeezing it it's the perfect tool for the job... Anyway, hope others can learn from my mistake!

Still no seals from JC Whitney for me, but it is good to know that you got the right stuff finally studio_drums. I found out that our lovely friends at JC Whitney charged my credit card *twice* for the seals! Grrrrr.... Got that straightened out pretty much right away, but still waiting to receive the product. Not the best of experiences with these guys so far.

Woo-hoo! I got my seals today, and they were the right ones!!! Now, I gotta figure out how to install them!

Congrats James got pictures of it ? :D

doublehelix wrote:

Woo-hoo! I got my seals today, and they were the right ones!!! Now, I gotta figure out how to install them!

James, nothing in the world could be easier. Go inside the room and have someone hold the door so that it is closed flush with the jamb. Just slightly snug up the rubber to the door and staple it into position. Onces you get it going you should be able to stretch it ever so slightly and set it into position every 3 feet or so....... Miter the corners and fit them snugly together. Once you have them all rough set - check for final fitting adjustments and then staple them about every 4 to 6" to hold them in place. Do a final fit check by opening and closing the door a couple of times. Once final adjustments are made - install the rabbetted trim - using 6d nails when fastening through the rubber and 8d nails on the outside - nail @ 8" o.c. both edges in 3/4" on the thick side and 1/2" in on the rabbetted side. Again - make sure that the door is being held completely closed (but not more than (TIP OF THE DAY) if you want perfect accuracy - but don't want to trust that to the person on the other side of the door - then just have them nail 2 temp wooden cross pieces into the door jamb at roughly 1/3" spacings on the door - this will ensure no movement of the door itself. When installing the trim take care to assure that you are (again) setrting the trim to just apply a very gentle even pressure of the rubber against the door - too much pressure will cause for difficulty in proper closing of the door assembly. repeat the operation for the 2nd gasket. Rod

Wow Rod! Amazing advice, and completely clear! Thank you!!! I was going to do it completely wrong (attach the seal to the stop first, and then attach them both at once). Thanks for saving my butt once again!!!

doublehelix- that's what we did: Put door in close position (flush with room side jamb edges). Trace door with a pencil on inside jambs. Cut stops to fit (pencil line to jamb edge), leaving room for rubber on stop edges. Staple rubber to stop edges(every 3"). Screw wood pieces to jamb to keep door flush. Then attach stops to jamb while compressing rubber against door, top first, then sides. Remove wood pieces.

I'm a fan of commerce on line. I feel it's actually more secure than over the phone or the same thing, but with less hassle as standing at a checkout counter somewhere. The same people are privy to the same information in all transactions with a company - but the numbers are reduced in an online transaction as we don't interact with someone through a secure transaction.. And since JCWhitney seems to be the only place online to find our much sought after trunk rubber, I figured I would submit my experience with review and detail - My aim here is not to persuade or disuade anyone from using this company. Just to simply provide info about my experience. My experience with jcwhitney right now. Given that I already had information from previous customers who informed me of the confusion between the online label between typek and typeL trunk rubber. I found the correct product at this page: Type M Rubber Order Detail I calculated what my needs were. Using rough openning measurements of my windows and doors - Windows - 3 @ 30x15. So that's, ((60 + 30) * 3) = 270'' Window Total = 270'' or 22.5' Doors - 2 @ 6'8'' * 3'. So that's ((180'' + 72'') * 2) = 384'' Door Total = 384'' or 32' Price for 10' is 14.99 each I'll need 54.5' so to be safe I'll get 6 - Order Total - 89.94 + 19.99 for shipping. Steps - Find link above. Add it to cart. Update total of cart to 6. Proceed to checkout. NOTE: at this time we are in HTTPS, which means an encrypted transaction is about to take effect. ie- personal info... This is a good thing. Enter Billing and Shipping info. Note: I advise anyone who doesn't like spam to find a free email address to be your buffer in commerce. I actually have a consumer@[mydomain].com to receive this mail. It gives me another layer of abstraction to deal with spam and soliciation. I highly recommend it. Confirm product info. Proceed to checkout. Enter payment info. After being presented with a confirm screen containing the entire summary of info that I've entered for the transaction, I clicked "Place Order" After submitting this form a new window was created and minimized, then restored to a relatively large size: It's basically a "CASH BACK" coupon award thing. This is served up from another domain - one-time-offer.com. As someone who uses a computer with regularity, I know this is crap, sh*t, bollocks, or whatever explicit language you choose to use in knee jerk exclaimation of displeasure.. I kill the window. This would normally take me about 1.8 seconds to evaluate as crap and kill. For documentation purposes - 20seconds.. Another smaller popup was for eval.bizrate.com which is a common practice in commerce to ask for survey questions and gain a larger pool of spam and contact info with another domain. Again - crap. Click BOOM. My email confirmation was already in the email account I used. Again - this is a "consumer" email account where I only use this for its stated purpose. I'll update this upon receipt of product which has been stated to be received sometime in the first week of march. One thing I noticed in the links from other forums cited in this thread was that people clicked other offers - in the ordersummary/thankyou page there are two upsells if you will... I will translate for those it may help:

EMAIL OFFERS (checkbox) Yes! Sign Me Up for e-offers! Join the growing list of JCW customers who want to keep up with the latest automotive trends and special promotions.

Translation - HARASSMENT APROVAL Yes! By checking and submitting this information, I'd like you send me emails that I'll never read and would likely be nabbed by my spam filters and only when I'm getting my creditcard bill months later will I notice that in the small print there may/maynot have been a message about signing up for a reoccurring benefits and privilage fee. Get the point?

As I mentioned in my post from earlier, even when you order via telephone, this company does anything they can to get you to buy more and to send you spam. Beware of these guys, seriously. I think if you are cautious and aware of their tactics, you will be fine. BTW, I did the phone ordering method because I wanted to make sure I got the right product since their web page was screwed up.

I'm a rock when it comes to that sort of stuff - I HATE marketing bs during a common sale... like, when a company asks for a phone number or address when buying something like this or even as simple as a pair of jeans.. "seriously... just put Bob Jones of [removed] and pick a town.. I just want this pair of jeans." cheers.

Dude, as a marketer, I take offense to that. :) Seriously, that is sales, not marketing. The genious of marketing is putting you into a decision processes of perceived value over your money.

DCinFrance wrote:

Dude, as a marketer, I take offense to that. :) Seriously, that is sales, not marketing. The genious of marketing is putting you into a decision processes of perceived value over your money.

no offense intended. my initiative to review my trip to purchase was basically because of the other forum cited where people were being duped into upsells and reoccuring charges. it just isn't there at jcwhitney from a normal ecommerce trip.

rod gervais wrote:

Sure is - I was at Power Station less than a couple of months back - and the rubber looks as good as new - and that was installed in 1994..... so 13 years and counting.Rod

Rod - In 1996-1997, one of my close friends (at the time) was working at The Power Station and I remember Corrosion Of Conformity was in there recording their "Wiseblood" album.. I was in that main room (studio-A?), and WOW - That place is really something else! The size, woodworking, acoustics, etc... (not to mention all that lovely gear :cry: ) Did you design some aspects of that place? My studio is now basically done, and I STILL have the original concept-drawing I did on my friend's kitchen table after hanging out in The Power Station a few times (10 years ago...) Funny how things turn out.

BradJacob wrote:

Rod - In 1996-1997, one of my close friends (at the time) was working at The Power Station and I remember Corrosion Of Conformity was in there recording their "Wiseblood" album.. I was in that main room (studio-A?), and WOW - That place is really something else! The size, woodworking, acoustics, etc... (not to mention all that lovely gear :cry: ) Did you design some aspects of that place?

The entire design was actually by Tony Bonjoivi........... but I am the only person (Besides Tony) who ever figured out exactly how it worked - and once I figured that out - I realized that the original engineers had introduced some errors into the design - Tony never figured it out because he didn't understand the physical engineering side of it. I redesigned the aspects I knew needed to be fixed (subtle changes of 1 to 3 degrees on frame members) and then took great care to see to it that it was built to exacting standards. The outcome was that (beyond Tony's design) the rooms did not require any tuning - and every room Tony had ever done in the past had required tuning. Needless to say - Tony was blown away.......... Rod

Fri Feb 22, 2008 was the order date. Received the rubber today. [/quote][/url]

Great! could you post a re-cap of how you got it. am I correct that you went to the online ordering page and ordered type "M" trunk rubber and got type "K"? Does this work every time?