This confuses me a little. You're suggesting one should build the interior walls of a RWAR open on the backside, facing the exterior wall? That's not at all what I've understood and now I think I'm out to lunch on this. My understanding is that the outer and inner walls are a seperate issue. For instance, in my case, the outer wall is brick. You're suggesting that I use THAT as one leaf in my isolation system? I thought the interior RWAR was to be MSM, but that the outer walls were a separate entity... I'm so confused... I've got Rod's book on order. I'm hoping it can answer my questions.I will build the interior wall next to this "enclosure" open on the back as well with sheetrock layers on the inside (control room). This will be a 2 leaf system.... "mass - air - mass". The extra leaf in the middle can decrease your STC rated by over 20!! That's why Rod's quote needs to be understood loud and clear
studio_drums's 1 Car Garage Conversion thread- FINISHED!!!
Originally posted at johnlsayers.com, topic 9166.
Sorry, not trying to confuse anyone :shock:
Maybe I didnt' clearly communicate what I was doing. I simply used standard framing to enclose the garage door opening using 2x4 studs. On the outside I layered sound board, OSB and siding. This wall will get rock wool insulation as well
Now, on the inside next to this wall I build another wall 1" from the garage enclosure wall (double wall system). This wall will get rock wool insulation and the double sheetrock application using green glue to adhere together.
The exterior soundboard, OSB and siding is 1 leaf. The secondary wall on the inside with double sheetrock is my 2nd leaf. There is an 8" airspace stuffed with insulation between these walls hence: mass...air...mass.
I hope this is a better explanation :D
Dan
Thanks for the interest guys.
The rough electrical is done and inspected.
I had the electrical service panel moved from inside the garage to outside. It had to be done twice.
The garage door hardware was removed, then the door was bolted to 2x4's on the sides(see pics on first page)
Then I put 2 layers of drywall over the OSB with green glue in between.
Here's the finished door (with a couple scraps on the bottom left)
Here's my minisplit install getting started:
Here's the model:
http://www.buyunit.com/default.aspx?pag ... id=FuJitsu
You can see the refrigeration, condensate, and electrical lines coming in the bottom and going up the stud.
Bingo. That came through loud and clear. I misunderstood the "room within a room" concept if this is the way to go. I understood that the double wall (two leaf system) was a separate entity to the extant outer wall. I see, you're incorporating the outside wall as one of two leafs. I'm learning all the time around here... ;) Since I can't remove the garage doors I'm looking at something more like studio_drums' solution. My door is metal with a slight cavity so I'm thinking if I put backing rod + caulk and/or neoprene of some kind around the outside to stop airflow, and use a dense material to fill the cavity (something more dense than normal insulation) then I could fasten OSB or drywall on the inner most layer and it should act as one leaf rather than creating a third leaf. The key for me is to fill the cavity in the door itself with something dense enough that it doesn't act as airspace AND affix to the door in such a way that it doesn't create airpockets. Off to investigate! Thanks for your time. :)Sorry, not trying to confuse anyone :shock: Maybe I didnt' clearly communicate what I was doing. I simply used standard framing to enclose the garage door opening using 2x4 studs. On the outside I layered sound board, OSB and siding. This wall will get rock wool insulation as well Now, on the inside next to this wall I build another wall 1" from the garage enclosure wall (double wall system). This wall will get rock wool insulation and the double sheetrock application using green glue to adhere together. The exterior soundboard, OSB and siding is 1 leaf. The secondary wall on the inside with double sheetrock is my 2nd leaf. There is an 8" airspace stuffed with insulation between these walls hence: mass...air...mass. I hope this is a better explanation :D Dan
Here's the fan unit I will be using for air circulation. This will go into the attic above the garage.
Boomka,
The finished room will be about 9.5 x 18 (feet) with 8.5 ceilings.
Very cool and very nice inspiration I must say! Can't wait to see the finished product. :D
Dan
Insulation in, silencer boxes finished, first drywall layer going up. Thanks for the interest.
Unconventional, but effective.
Damn, I just realized you're right up the road from me; I'm down in Dover.
Nice build btw.
I finished the first layer of drywall and I have great news: I played my boombox as loud as it would go and I couldn't hear anything outside- also, I grabbed a 'real' stereo speaker that could produce some bass (and get louder)...and it's still barely audible. This is BEFORE Green Glue and 2 more layers of drywall...
Sorry guys- I haven't updated since I've been too busy. But I'm done.
I'll let the pictures speak for me.
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Hey man, thaz cool!
(tho I doubt the "blue" walls, dare I use the word "ugly".. sorry)
Nice work, really!
Everyone loves the color in person. It's actually darker than that. The digital camera flash makes it appear lighter and also changes the contrast in the room.
I've heard some others here say the same thing regarding their pics...
Congrats on the completion!
I've applied things I've learned from your posts here in my ongoing build.
Enjoy the isolation!
Glad this helped someone the way other threads have helped me.
8)
Here's an updated pic. I also got rid of the Digi001 and got a Lynx Aurora 16. Using Sonar 7 now. Also got two API 3124's for pres. And using Adam A7's now as well. Maybe I should just post a pic...
I can control my DAW from the laptop next to the kit using wireless and Symantec's pcAnywhere software.
updated gear pic
Hey studio_drums,
Nice work!
Wanted to ask you about the treatment hanging on your walls.
Did you frame these or did you just wrap the rigid fiber glass with fabric ?
How are they hung ?
Thanks a lot!
Eran
http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=10665
http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=10297
I hung the panels like a picture with wire and eye hooks.