BUILDING STUDIO IN PALAYE BOTSWANA AFRICA

Hi John and the great people at John/sayers.com I have submitted the business plan for the studio try and get a loan for the finishing the studio off, so I was wondering how far you where with the design for the Sketch Up? Please let mi know how far you. I will try and keep in touch, my computer crashed so I cant logo on as often as i want but it will be ready soon. I will keep you updated with the loan Thanks John Moemedi

yeah sorry Moemedi - I'll get onto it. ;) cheers john

Hi John No problem, I got a call from the Bank yesterday and they are coming to my village to see the current structure, i am putting every thing that we have worked on together so that I show them the progress. I think that they will give the loan. it not alot, I think it will be enough to set up and get some few new things and start operating, and will expand once i get a new plot to build the dream studio in. Thanks John One Moemedi

Hi everyone, I john I hope that all is well. I am waiting on the bank to hear what they will be saying about the project. They must be calling mi, They came to see the building and where real impressed at the fact that I was using technology (internet) to get information to build a studio in a village. They then called me for an interview and they should be calling me in about a week or or if they shall be funding the project as the boad needs to decide on the project. I hope that the design for the studio is going alright and that when they approve, i ill be able to start working. THanks John ONE Moemedi

Hi Moemedi, I was at Walt Disney World last week, during which I met several "cast members" (employees) who were natives of your country. Of course I had to tell at least one of them about your project. 8) It's been a while since we have heard from you. I hope you have good news to share about your financing... Although I have a feeling that if you had good news, you would have shared it already. :roll: --Keith :mrgreen:

Hey Keith Compliments of the new year to you all and the John Lsaysers.com Massive. I am very depressed, these people are taking longer than I had thought they would with the funding, actually too long. I was very very stressed out and dont know where I stand with the bank. they keep sending mi up and down, up and down and I am very tired and hope that they shall have an answer for me soon. I hope that If they agreee, Things shall move faster and that I will be able to be up and running in a shorter time than THan the loan. You meet people from Botswana Keith, that sounds great. maybe you meet the Minister of Health, I know she was at Disney, they are close family friends. I am glad someone around the world can say, " Hey, I know Moemedi FRom Botswana, he is busy working on a Studio in Botswana" that sounds kool. THe good news is that the Government has just set up a new ministry of YOuth, Sports and Culture and it shall also assist yong people who are interested in going into music, and other arts. So I hope to try and get the minister come and offically open the studio when it is done , if the give me the money to make it happen. Thanks , I will keep in touch, I have been comeing to the site as a visitor, checking out the progress with other people's studio and I love the Red Bull studio, it massive. Later MOemedi

HelLo John and the MAssive. It has been a long time and all this time i have been trying to fight with the banks to lend me money to finish the studio off, but unfortunately they have turned me down becoz they think the project is not viable. SO i have been trying think of ways to get money to finsh this project off. I would love to finsh it and believe that I way just have a way in the next few weeks to finish it off so I still your helpand massive to complete a world class studio in Rural Africa. Please John, Could you help me finish off the design so that I can gather quotations as I am think about traveling to Zimbabwe to get most of the wood as I think it will be cheaper there than buying in Botswana. THe really expensive things are the block board or chip board here because we dont make any of that here in Botswana so I am talking to my friends to see if we can go there and buy the Boards, to be used in the roof, the floor, and what ever i can get cheap. SO John what i am trying to ask for is what I will need to finish the studio and then when I go to Zimbabwe, I buy it all at once. every thing and then transport everything buy train. I may have to remind you about all the things we discussed, even the plan that we agreed on. Please help me finih the project, for me its been two years now. Thanks for taking time to read this post. Moemedi Ramogapi [removed] www.myspace.com/ruffriddims

Hello every one at Johnlsayers.com, John, Keith and the massive at large. I have started work on the studio again, its been about a year now. I have managed to organise some material and have started roofing according to the Specs that John had said that I should roof the building. We shall be putting the Chip board, the insulation and the corrigated iron sheets tomorrow. John please help with the studio design. Will the studio have a false floor? i am ready to try and finish it off. Please help John with the design of the studio, i have attached some pictures from the current work. I shall supply all measurements tomorrow once we are doen with the roof. Thank you and hope to hear from you soon. MOemedi Ramogapi

here's one idea. since the ceiling is sloped i'd take advantage of that as well.

Hi to every one, :D Hey Gullfo, I really love the design, wow, its mind blowing and really kool, i can see it in the mind, really nice nice work. will the drawing have exact measurements, or is it all done to scale, i am not sure, about the measurements. But i really love the design. Question, because i the earlier stages of work, i had asked about power and how i would supply it inot the control roof if holes for lighting cannnot be made in the ceiling board? WOuld i have to make the electrical pipes run under the fool or behind the wooden pannels? We have managed to put the chip board on top of the building, in the roof and have also put in the fibgre glass insulation and the corrugated iron shits on top, below are pictures that show the process, we shall start building and working on the booth roof from the 01 september, tomorrow. SO i shall soon be posting more pictures.

I find loading picture here mentally challenging at times, because, for new viewer is will seem to be confusing them, looking like i was mixing up the process. :roll:

the design is pretty much to scale based on your measurements and a couple of guesses on my part... :wink: since the room is sloping, i didn't make the framing parts angled but for construction purposes you would do that, or build in a false ceiling (since you have the height) to add additional trapping and it would give you more options for lighting (recessed vs track) etc... for lighting, my recommendation is you plan on using something like track lights on the ceiling to avoid putting holes in the roof. electrical and cables can all be routed behind the treatment walls and boxes attached to the treatment walls themselves. another thought that comes to my mind is the CR proper vs the seating area - the separating resonators walls (possibly) could be made to house speakers to make the CR and listening place each have a 5.1 mix - would take a bit more planning but its possible.

Hey Glenn Thank you very much for you reply, What i wante to know about the measurements is for thing like resonators, measuremenst from the wall and the angels, how do i culculate those or are there mesurements should i just try and build as I have doen but try and make sure that everything is consistant in terms of measurements. I am not sure if I am making sense. I can see the drawing, but dont understand if i should use my own jusgment while making the actual framing, angles, distance from the wall and so on? or will those come? I would also like to ask, how will the floor be like in the studio? half seems to be raised, that means that we will have to build a frame and fill it with instulation.? How about the lower section off the studio, do we put carepeting or we leave it as ceremic tiling both in the booth and the control room? please let me know, i undert stand that for the slope, i will have to do my own judgement, is it the same in the rest of the building? We have been busy trying to finish the bring work for the other section of the building so it is roofed. and I hope to have some pictures soon. Most of the time i have been running some thing here and there so i have missed some stages in construction. i hope that the roofing shall be finished soon so that We can start the inside next week. thanks

here's an updated version. basically the slats are designed for broad ranges - typically low-mid and the ceiling slats and backwall slats are more decorative and diffusive. angles and measurements can be derived right from the model... i have to admit to a minor error in this one if you are looking for a 5.1 mix - the center speaker needs to come out a bit and consequently so would the 2 front soffits - about 30 cm or so...

Hey Glenn The first one i really like, it looked more kooler and had an edge to it that is stricking. The other thing is that for this studio I would like to just record artists in this studio and the mixing of audio for surround sound i shall not do for now. The video work I plan to do shall be done in the Office in the other section of the building. So I would like to keep to the first design because i just need the speakers in stereo. For now i shall be editing video in the Office and shall leave the audio recording to the studio that you have designed. i Really love the first design you did and it just looks out of this world. the studio monitors i am using right now are not big ones, but trying to Upgrade to M-Audio BX8, which i think will be large enough for the room. is it okay to change monitors once I have built and the studio is running? So I would like us to keep with the first design that you made, that one is KING, it will just be for audio and not for video or surround sound. I shall will try and get all the measure ments from Sketch up for the first design you did. thanks Glenn for all your help. Moemedi

yea, after i posted this i was thinking about something a bit more along the lines of Djo's setup to give you 2 tracking rooms/booths and a slightly smaller CR - i'll post something shortly with the idea just so you have it in case it works better for you. i'd build the framing for the soffits a bit bigger and this way you can change out the speaker box and adjust the soffit plate to accomodate different sizes later. something in the 8" range is probably the right size for this room although a subwoofer may be useful.

Hey Glenn I hope that you are well and everything is kool that side of the world. THe design that really stole my heart was the first one you did, where you used the whole room. that one give me some space and i really love that one. and it was more decorative than the ones you did after that. I was wondering if we could work on that one, it is the best, but maybe it will not be right for the speakers. I really like that design. Do you think that the Floor has to have a raised floor at the end. Let me know. The thing is that John had said we need to make the room bigger in the fisrt place, so we demolished the section fo the stuio that was ment to be the store room to increase the CR space. Now I really like the space that it has created and would not like to cut down the space. Can we keep the size to that of the studio that it is? EVEn thought I use MAUSIO BX5 and will UPGRADE TO BX8 with (8")? Glenn, I would really like your help with some thing in the line of the studio. There are some industrial plots being advertised here in Botswana, in my village and i would like to propose the use of the studio to the Land Board. Land is free here as long as you have a unique idea for the use of the plot. They have advertisied 70 industrial plots for companies and individuals to apply. Because the this studio we are making is smaller, i would like to build try my luck and see if they can give me me the land to build more than one studio there. This will help me to make rates cheaper having one and will give various studio sizes with differnt studio uses from. I would like the to propose to build, 2 Band Recording studios, 2 Big Voicing boths for recording Choirs and large groups 2 REhearsal rooms, 4 smaller studios Graphix studio Video studio Ware house (store room to Store CDS) Ofiices for people that will run and manage the studio There is a 50/50 chance that i may get it and that I may not but i think it is worth the try because a recording studio shall be unique of this size and one i have the land it shall be easier to finance the project. Let me know if you would be able to help develop a concept that includes all these so that i can submit it as part of the management plan of the building. i wil scan the mesurements of the plot i would like to propose for the studio. Thanks Moemer

i'll get you the update version 1 shortly. as far as a big project like you're proposing, taking a really long shot in the dark, i'd say you need at least 9,000 sq ft (835m2). this could easily be $500K investment to build and outfit...

Hey Glen Thanks for the Reply, I will give you the dimentions of the Plot, my aim is to aquire the plot by showing the land board what it is that you propose to do with the land. THere is a Second University that will start being built here and I am trying to also see if the Ministry of Education will be interested to use the studios if I manage to get the land. In terms of land size, the sizes vary from small to very large and I shall give you dimentions and a scanned picture of the ones that I would like to try my luck with. If you can make out standing designs, then the chances of getting them will increase. i am also trying to get supporting ducuments from finacers that would be interested in a project of this size. I Know that it would cost alot, The first set is to convice the Land Board that my Village soon to be town needs a studio of this size. I am also trying to get some letters of support from the Ministry of Youth and Sports Arts and Culture, SAMDEF, BOMU and other Bodies that would be interested in this project. I am also working on the management plan. THanks Glenn, the Design, Version 1 is very very nice. and I am sure that once it is done it shall be mind blowing. MOemedi

Hi Glenn and the Johnlsayers Fam I have managed to try and have the studio roofed and would like to move into the next phase of the project which is the interior of the studio. SO Glenn, Should I start on the first design that you made or is there an update of the design? The other question is, how do i find the angle in sketch up? I have found the tape measure measures but I am failing to get the tool that give the angles. Please help. I shall be going to look at the timber hardware store to see what i can get once we have the final design for the studio, or if the first one is a go. Thanks for taking time to read the post. The following images show the roofing, putting brandering, fibreglass and ceiling. we shall be painting the other section of the building tomorrow aswell as the ceiling in the control room and voicing booth.

looking good! best as i can tell, the roof angle is about 5 degrees. since you're going to add a false ceiling under the isolation ceiling for treatments it should be ok. attached is isometric frame and floor plan. I've sent you some pdfs today and will follow up this week with the rest.

Hi Glenn, John and THe FAm Glenn this is the plots that I had told you about, they have been advertised in the local news papers and I have chosen plot number 15 to propose the studio that can accommodate the uses listed below. THe success of the project will depend on the uniqueness of the proposed use of land and i believe that this will be a unique project. I would like to propose the uses listed below. Please let me know if you can help. The dead line for submission is the 10 October 2007 at 0900 local Botswana time. SO i was wondering if i could get the designs 2 days before. there fore on the 08 October 2007. Whats I am requesting is for you to make a sketch which i could try and submit and see if they can approve and if they do, we can start working on the studios that have been listed below. 2 Band Recording studios, 2 Big Voicing boths for recording Choirs and large groups 2 REhearsal rooms, 4 smaller studios Graphix studio Video studio Ware house (store room to Store CDS) Ofiices for people that will run and manage the studio I have attached the pictures of the plots advertised and the picture with the plot that i would like to to propose the use for studios in. Please help. Thanks i have seen the email that you have sent me and i will be working on the studio its week. Thanks Glenn. Moemedi

i took a shot at how things stack together... somewhat institutional looking but maybe cost effective that way? i put the main building complex behind the warehouse to keep it away from road traffic... i was thinking one additional use for the live hall is concerts, theater, etc... as well as a nice live room...

WOW Glenn, it is More than what I had in Mind, it is really really nice. very very impressive. I did not expect this, was just expecting a floor plan but, wow, it is really really great what you came up with, I love it, It looks institutial, I dont mind, but what will make it young and funky is the finishes that we shall put into the building. Honestly, its amazing what you did Glenn, It is really impressive and I think that they shall consider the plot. I love it love it love it. its really kool. Amaizing. COuld you please email me the bigger JPEGS so that I can Print it out and if you have your name. You could label it in the Corner, STUDIO DRAWING FOR PLOT 15 PALAPYE BOTSWANA AFRICA CLIENT : RUFF RIDDIMS BEATS PRODUCTION (PTY) LTD DESIGN BY : GLENN Some thing like that if you know what I mean, that would really stamp professionalism on the whole proposal, so that i can print them out on A3 and in Colour, if you have the Floor PLAN it would be seal the proposal. THanks for the Effort and Please keep your fingers crossed for this project to be approve. With the Studio, We have been busy working, painting the walls in the rest of the building and hope to be working on the studio soon and also we had a problem with some houses we have built, having leakages while clients where in the but we are sorting them out. So will soon be on track with the studio again. but will have pricture of the other sections of the building soon. Hope to hear from you soon. Moemedi R. Ramogapi

Hi every One, Sorry have been quite, trying to organize this and that for the final lap to finish the studio. I think this is the final 100m dash and so I think I might just be ready to finish it. My camera is down so will have to organize one before I start working on finishing the studio. But hope to start within a week. Thanks for all the knowledge you continue to share with the Rest of the World, John, Glenn, Keith, I hope you all grow to be as old as Mandela and still designing Massive studio. :-D :-) See You soon ;-) MOemedi