Hi,
To see history of ideas, here are previous posts, pics included:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=13954
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=15432
After two years of pondering on the right way forward with the chapel vestry project... I think I'm gonna have to give up half the space for another business and make the whole building financially viable. It would be extremely indulgent to use the whole space for studio usage only... :shock: especially when I'm just gonna be recording my own material most of the time (my songs as artist + music for TV / Radio / Theatre as well as the odd band 'commercially' + jamming). This new idea will also stagger the project in three phases. So here goes...
Phase 1 (ASAP): Convert the smaller room into a nice chill out area with kitchen/diner and WC. This will be the temp. space until phase 2 gets done.
Phase 2 (When the time is right! $$£££): Convert 3/5ths of the main hall into a decent recoding facility and offices / storage.
Phase 3 (My wife's project In future): Convert the rest of the hall into a basic bunk house for tourists / musicians / clients etc... The office / storage space will act as a sound isolation buffer between two business'.
I need to talk to my architect soon so I wanna share some concerns here with you lot before confirming anything.
Basically, I wanna know if the space for the recording studio (c.room, l.room, V.booth + corridor) is acoustically viable. I have based the idea in the pics around the window locations. Height is generous, to roof pitch is around 8m. up to current false ceiling around 4m.
Please give thoughts on my layout for Phase 2 (studio). I know it's a basic sketchup design... but I just wanna know if I'm on the right track with the studio area. The separation walls would be blocks, for structure above (basic attic crash pad) and with 3 way vision.
Notes
1. Entrance to the bunk house will be cut out of one of the windows.
2. There will also be an entrance into bunk house from the studio via the office / storage area.
3. Stairs in the design lead to attic crash pad and room above the kitchen diner. (rooms not in diagram)
Back to the drawing board!
Originally posted at johnlsayers.com, topic 17425.
Obviously, no doors yet!
I have put the link corridor on an angle to gain space in rec.room. This has dictated the shape of the control room which has narrowest end corners at 95˚ and widest end corners at 85˚. No proper calcs! Just a rough sketch!
Other concerns:
1. Would the office / storage buffer work to isolate sound from the two business?
2. It it a good idea to make rooms this shape (rec/cont.rooms), prior to acoustic treatment?
my inclination would be to swap the bunk house and studio positions. this way the bunk house is nearest to the kitchen etc and the studio is as isolated from the bunk house and kitchen as possible and using the office/storage is good to help with the isolation as well. then if you have a single space (even if its smaller) you can more effectively lay out the rooms.
Thanks Gullfo,
The location of this building makes it really hard to get down to basics. Didn't explain properly, the bunk house will be a separate business run by my wife. Own kitchen, toilets etc. The kitchen on my current basic layout will be solely for the studio... chill out / conference area.
I must give access priority to studio (drums, amps etc). The attached picture shows the external view of the only entrance. In the near future, there's no other option for entrance. But, at the same time... I need access to the storage / office and bunk house via studio too.
Entrance to bunk house will be through the wooden gate on the right, then cut out a door through one of the windows. Or... I will do a ramp around the other side of the building.
All I need to know is:
1. Would the storage/office area be sufficient sound isolation. Obviously, build materials and isolation methods are half the issue.
2. Studio rooms. As I have less space to play around with... I have compensated less space in control room to give more space in live room by laying them out in odd shapes... rather than 'square' rooms. I understand that rooms should be acoustically treated in irregular forms.... but the way I have done them, the actual walls are irregular. Is this ok? Or should I square them off?... this will leave less room in live room due to the link corridor.
so if you have the limitations as described, then i would say your layout if good enough. the live room and CR/booth are separated by a hallway so you should be ok from an isolation perspective assuming no significant structural transfer (flanking) and all other normal steps: enough mass, stiffness, decoupling, and sealing. the treatments themselves can then be working into the space - speaker soffits, ceiling and first reflection treatments, bass trapping etc. as well as each of the other rooms - diffusion, control of extraneous reflections in the booth and live room, etc.