need air conditioner / exchanger

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need air conditioner / exchanger

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well...i'm about knee deep until my build here...getting what I can finished before I go in for back surgery...

Anyways...I still don't have a solution for air in my live room...

It's not tremendous (23.5ft x 13.5ft) but i'd like something simple....figure one vent on the end far from the door for air in, one on the end near the door for air out.....

i'd be putting this in the ceiling above the room....i was figuring i'd build some sort of ISO box for the unit and then I'd do some of the diffusion style ducting to kill any sound from that...

but i am in need of a unit to do this for me...any suggestions? i'm looking to not break the bank...is there anything in a 500 dollar range that i should be looking at?


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I doubt it... My tiny room's mini split heat pump and my heat recovery ventilator is mostly DIY and I think mine will cost five times that when I finish it.

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If you are talking AC Rod says a portable heat pump is OK. They only do about 900 sq. ft. per unit and you can vent through a wall if needed. They run $300-$500
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Post by orksnork »

could you give me a little more info?? as i said...i'm only working with about 300 sq feet or so...

some of the units i've looked at have had optionally external thermostats...something like that would be great too...

the main thing i really need to be able to use/make something to allow ducting on the unit, so one of the larger stand up units wouldn't work for me
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I have one of these and one that just does AC. This unit does heat and cooling.


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it mentions the dual hose system...

is that just for exhaust? or is one of the hoses used for the actual cooled (or heated air)

i need to push the cool air into the room through a vent, and remove air from the room from another
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Post by sharward »

Looks very similar to the Soleus MAC-10K & MAC-12K units.

I do not recommend the use of a product like this in a studio context.

Don't miss my communications with Soleus in the "HVAC - What to use? Is DIY an option?" thread.

Quoting the manufacturer in a response to my inquiry: "For sound proof music studios, we do not recommend it because it could create a vacuum . . ."

Quoting myself in the above thread: ". . . the unit provides insufficient fresh air and as such should not be used in air-tight small spaces as an oxygen source."

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Post by TomVan »

Keith,
Sorry for not posting that. I have seperate fresh air ins and outs.
It is true, they cannot provide enough fresh air for your studio alone
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Post by sharward »

Bottom line, there's not enough detail in the original poster's thread to be able to provide a specific recommendation. At this point we can only hint at one one should not do for certain things... :roll:

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Post by orksnork »

sorry for that sharward....

what other sort of information should i provide so that others might be able to help me out?
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Post by sharward »

As per the "Don't post before" announcement thread, provide the extreme level of detail necessary for us to literally build what you have built so far and what you intend to have when you are done.

If you don't already have a project thread here in the Construction forum, start one.

Pictures and detailed drawings are a must at this point, I would think.

We're eager to help, but there are sooooooo many variables.

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Post by orksnork »

ahhh, i've read that and posted before...i didn't really see the relevance of the rest of my room to this subject as the build of my walls and floors wouldn't have much effect on the need for air flow...but i'll do that tomorrow.
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