EXPERIMENTS! EEEERIIIIK, PLeaz DEESAAAART, pag 7 and 8

Post by **xSpace** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:31 pm

Yes I think that would be super...a look at the inside of your work room would be welcome as well!

timogiodeson · Post by **timogiodeson** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:47 am

xSpace wrote:Yes I think that would be super...a look at the inside of your work room would be welcome as well!

great!
Here how everything started,
THE BEGINNING!
I was just a drummer

more later.

timogiodeson · Post by **timogiodeson** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:46 am

Then I did some phone calls and someone convinced me to switch to acoustic foam.
I sold one of my drums for the acoustic foam...

timogiodeson · Post by **timogiodeson** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:32 am

Nothing magic happened going from drummer foam to acoustic foam...
I decided to buy some books.

timogiodeson · Post by **timogiodeson** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:24 am

Kind like difficult stuff for me..(just a drummer)

, I studied in the book that the foam is very good stuff, the book axially recommend it...
very confusing for me, how in the world?
I asked to an acoustical consultant,
more later

timogiodeson · Post by **timogiodeson** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:52 am

The acoustic consultant said: Foam Out Of The Room.
What a confusing world!

And I began to build 4 inc panels....
more later

Post by **gullfo** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:11 am

learning and comprehending written English is actually a good skill in this case as the answers you seek are in those books...

timogiodeson · Post by **timogiodeson** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:25 pm

gullfo wrote:learning and comprehending written English is actually a good skill in this case as the answers you seek are in those books...

thanks for the compliment

if all the answers are in those books, why a recording design studio forum then?

P.S.
xSpace, more images later,

Eric_Desart · Post by **Eric_Desart** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:10 pm

timogiodeson wrote:
gullfo wrote:learning and comprehending written English is actually a good skill in this case as the answers you seek are in those books...
if all the answers are in those books, why a recording design studio forum then?

Timo,

You said you liked experimenting.
When I saw your pictures I must smile. That's hardly experimenting.
Books help you to sort out your brain in a logical sequential manner and explain the principles involved.
A forum can help you to go further in-depth on specific uncertainties.

Experimenting means trying something in a systematic way, keeping the variables limited, so you can conclude something from the experiment.
Making a patchwork from e.g. your ceiling is not or hardly experimenting.

Once you understand or feel the principles you're after, you can check which materials answer your goals.

Reading your comments and seeing your pictures makes me understand gullfo's comment.

timogiodeson · Post by **timogiodeson** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:34 am

Eric_Desart wrote: Timo,

You said you liked experimenting.
When I saw your pictures I must smile. That's hardly experimenting.
Books help you to sort out your brain in a logical sequential manner and explain the principles involved.
A forum can help you to go further in-depth on specific uncertainties.

Experimenting means trying something in a systematic way, keeping the variables limited, so you can conclude something from the experiment.
Making a patchwork from e.g. your ceiling is not or hardly experimenting.

Once you understand or feel the principles you're after, you can check which materials answer your goals.
Reading your comments and seeing your pictures makes me understand gullfo's comment.

Dear Eric, your presence it's important, I'm not done with my funny drummer story jet..

. Yes I also did many systematic experiments, then I stopped, because I was a little sick and tired.
Also I didn't want any war against any company or between you and gullfo... so I decided to quit right there!
OK.....I will edit the funny comments now.

Post by **xSpace** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:42 am

DON'T YOU TOUCH A THING!!!

It does tell a story...maybe someone else will be able to understand the importance of slowing down and doing all the right steps in the right order to avoid such time consuming work.

timogiodeson · Post by **timogiodeson** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:04 am

xSpace wrote:DON'T YOU TOUCH A THING!!!

It does tell a story...maybe someone else will be able to understand the importance of slowing down and doing all the right steps in the right order to avoid such time consuming work.

Ok Xspace I just removed the funny part it's OK like that?

Yes!!! Slowing down !!! I totally agree! I strongly suggest to avoid such time and MIND consuming work I did.

don't ever GLUE!!! scraping walls and painting is very hard!

The story continue...
...all the foam was out of the room, and all 4 inc panels inside..
but still...

I made some more calls etc..
and then I built hundreds and hundreds of square feet of poly's ....

more later

BIG8 · Post by **BIG8** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:31 pm

timogiodeson wrote: don't ever GLUE!!! scraping walls and painting is very hard!

So bloody right! been through that myself, it's hell!!! probably the hardest, most tiring and frustrating part of a rebuild is to tear apart what was glued..

Best thing is have the acoustic stuff fit in place by themselves or hang them (removable).
Second best is to screw

Third best is to nail

Cheers,
Jean

timogiodeson · Post by **timogiodeson** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:03 pm

BIG8 wrote: So bloody right! been through that myself, it's hell!!! probably the hardest, most tiring and frustrating part of a rebuild is to tear apart what was glued.. ....
Cheers,
Jean

Man...Bloody bloody bloody ! I did it 3 times!
you know, the foami peoples told me try this, try this, try this ...

continue
I filled up all my room and storage with all the drummer foam, acoustic foam, 4 inc fiberglass , poly's , ceiling tiles, blankets, risers, paint, studs, etc..., not more space to walk.

talk about systematic experiments inside a car garage...
I have buried alive ! Every day a new hope.
still hoping to

one day.

more later

Post by **gullfo** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:01 am

timogiodeson wrote:Also I didn't want any war against any company or between you and gullfo...so I decided to quit right there!

funny is ok, incomprehensible is hard

we don't allow wars here, only healthy passionate debate

and if Eric's belly says something, then we listen