metal C studs for framing materials

Started by danodom on 3 January 2008. 10 replies.

Originally posted at johnlsayers.com, topic 9968.

New member from East Tennessee, USA. Hello everyone. I have no pictures or floor plans to submit...yet. Getting ready to start building a studio in a recently finished basement addition to my house. The space is 28x30 and is a blank canvas at this time. Does anyone have experience using metal C studs in lieu of wood studs for framing purposes for isolation rooms? In my occupation, I can get that material quite easily, and it allows any batt insulation placed between the studs to be nearly continuous (rather than being separated by the thickness of the wood stud). However, they may be worse in terms of allowing sound transmission through the stud itself. I don't want to create lots of problems because I wanted to save some money on materials, but if they would work, and they are free to me...then why not? Thank you, Dan Odom
danodom wrote:
Does anyone have experience using metal C studs in lieu of wood studs for framing purposes for isolation rooms? However, they may be worse in terms of allowing sound transmission through the stud itself.
Dan - Welcome to the forum. I'm smack dab in the middle of my build and I'm using metal track/studs. They work great. Also, they ARE better for sound transmission because they allow less sound to transmit. There are STC charts that on this site and all over the web that indicate this. But metal studs are working out great for me. Here's the link to my build - check it out and read up on all the reference posts. http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9756 You'll learn quite a bit. Also, being a carpenter myself, I have plenty of experience, but building a studio has a lot of specialized techniques and materials. Lots of "conventional" building practices are opposite with studios. I recommend picking up the book written by Rod Gervais form Amazon. Rod's a senior member on this forum and has picked out and save me from making some pretty hefty mistakes. So best of luck with the build my friend! Read as much as you can in the reference sections, and if you have any further questions, create "build-thread" and contain them all that thread. Then we can all have the pleasure of watching your build along with you.
Hi, I used Lafarge cormet studs in my build and have encountered no problems. I uses 70mm Studs and built my wall with 2 layers of 15mm db check plasted board, 70mm stud, 50mmgap/insulation, 70mm stud and then another 2 layers of 15mm db check on the other side. It is very easy to use the only downside is it doesnt have the same strength as wood( and its sharp watch those edges. Here is a pic of my wall. As BradJacob suggests rod's book is a must. Cheers Alan
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The bottom line is that light guage metal studs work well in single frame construction (without using RC-1) acheiving the same TL values as 2x4 frames using the resilient channel. Thin guage (25 ga or less) metal studs in a double wall configuration will not acheive the same low frequency TL values as double frame 2x4 walls (and double framed 2x6 @ 24" o.c. are better than 2x4 @ 16" o.c.). Heavy guage metal studs (20 ga or heavier) give the same basic TL values as wood studs based on the comments above as regards spacing. Rod
Thank you all for the replies. I will be ordering Rod's book immediately. I hope to have some plans and pics to upload soon. Based on your comments, I am leaning towards double wall framing with the heavier gauge studs. Dan
Rod Gervais 2 wrote:
The bottom line is that light guage metal studs work well in single frame construction (without using RC-1) acheiving the same TL values as 2x4 frames using the resilient channel. Thin guage (25 ga or less) metal studs in a double wall configuration will not acheive the same low frequency TL values as double frame 2x4 walls (and double framed 2x6 @ 24" o.c. are better than 2x4 @ 16" o.c.). Heavy guage metal studs (20 ga or heavier) give the same basic TL values as wood studs based on the comments above as regards spacing. Rod
who dat?
xSpace wrote:
Rod Gervais 2 wrote:
The bottom line is that light guage metal studs work well in single frame construction (without using RC-1) acheiving the same TL values as 2x4 frames using the resilient channel. Thin guage (25 ga or less) metal studs in a double wall configuration will not acheive the same low frequency TL values as double frame 2x4 walls (and double framed 2x6 @ 24" o.c. are better than 2x4 @ 16" o.c.). Heavy guage metal studs (20 ga or heavier) give the same basic TL values as wood studs based on the comments above as regards spacing. Rod
who dat?
Space - dat is me - Rod Something happened to my account - I emailed Shar and asked him to look into fixing it - (I hate to start from scratch and loose all of my posts - plus people will search for me by my nic - and won't find all of the old ones) but until it's fixed I rejoined like this so as to be able to help things along while I wait. Sincerely, Rod (The Real Rod - accept no substitutes.)
I appreciate you clarifying that Rod. And that it IS you. Never know when some pent up mind freak is going to go ballistic and forge an ID in an attempt to take over the forum world!
Rod Gervais 2 wrote:
dat is me - Rod
You should have named it Rod 2.0 :lol:
Brad Wrote:
You should have named it Rod 2.0
Or maybe even Rod Ver 2.011, Rev 3, Beta 2, with known issues, bug fixes and everthing! :lol: :lol: Either way, definitely not..............................Ricky! :wink: Sorry chaps, U.K. gag again! :oops: Perhaps he's now in stereo with two curtains, left, and right, providing of course your 'stereo is wired correctly'! :lol: :lol: No 'out of phase' gags Gentlemen please! :wink: Regards, Lou. 8)