THE COLORS IN THE PHOTOS DO NOT DO THE ROOM JUSTICE. IN PERSON THE ROOM IS GORGEOUS AS EVERYONE WHO COMES IN STATES.
THE ROOM IS ALSO BIGGER THAN THE PICTURES MAKE IT LOOK.
WE HAVE ALSO PUT A NEW COMPTER AND 16 CHANNELS OF NEVE PRE IN AS WELL SINCE THESE PHOTOS.
THE ROOM SOUNDS FANTASTIC AND MIXING IS EASY IN THIS ROOM.
THANKS TO JOHN SAYER FOR ALL THE HELP!
WE WILL FINISH THE TRACKING ROOM BEFORE LONG.
FINISHED CONTROL ROOM
Originally posted at johnlsayers.com, topic 9483.
Wow! Looks beautiful! Congratulations!
Wow that looks very impressive!
How are you finding those event monitors? I have a set which im in the middle of soffit mounting. What settings did you use on the trim controls?
Do you have any more details about the build as the room looks very similar to mine size-wise.
Just wish I had some Neve pre's too :twisted:
Look forward to hearing back,
Gareth
Russ,
congrats - it looks very impressive........
Rod
Thanks. My Events are passive. I have a full picture diary but no time to post all of it. Just follow the general advise of the people here and you will be ok. To me the important thing was the super chunks. In small rooms the general problem is the big wave build up since the room is too small to let them move out and away. It was easier for me to just stack up the rock wool rather that build hangers or whatever. My ceiling is basicaly one big super chunk as is the intire corner above the entrance door and the wall corner in the back. Also calculat the listening position and the angles of the sofit carefully as there will be a great bit of difference in sound as you move away from that position. even a foot back from the listening position as a great difference from being right on it. So make sure you calucate your listening position just right.Wow that looks very impressive! How are you finding those event monitors? I have a set which im in the middle of soffit mounting. What settings did you use on the trim controls? Do you have any more details about the build as the room looks very similar to mine size-wise. Just wish I had some Neve pre's too :twisted: Look forward to hearing back, Gareth
Thanks. and thanks for your help.Russ, congrats - it looks very impressive........ Rod
Ahh cool, I have the active version. Hope you're happy with yours!
Thats fine, seems like you're moving on to the live room next - I'll be looking forward to watching that progress too. I looked for other posts you've made and I think I get the general idea of your plans - mine are nearly identical! What does interest me is your ceiling superchunk. Could you post a few pictures of the construction of this. I was going to go with a simple cloud, but have also been thinking of a similar idea to what you've made. Do you find yours to have a major advantage over a cloud? Also, did you tune the slats to a specific frequency? Here's a picture of my rear wall design. Im open to suggestions if you have any :) Gareth [Edit] Didnt update the picture but since you've suggested superchunks I think I may go with that idea rather than hangersI have a full picture diary but no time to post all of it.
Eruss - what you have here, mate, is quite simply nothing short of tantamount to awesome :wink:
Very many congrats
regards
Lou 8)
hey ERUSS!!!!!
you beat me man!
i had to take the summer off from my build. just got back to work, started fishin around hear again and BAM! you're all set!
haha, looks great!
i'm nearing the end of my build, can't wait to start bringin my gear in.
peace.
here's mine as of tonight.
http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewt ... sc&start=0
I was going to build a cloud too. But, having looked at all the studios I work in, I decided to do what they did. Almost all of them slant the ceiling. Besides it was just easier to build. If the idea is to reflect the frequncies to the back of the room then slanting the ceiling kinda made sense. Yes, I think it is an advantage because it probably works better, is more effective at absorbing the lows and was easier to build. I built the frame and stuffed it with rockwool. I then stetched the fabrik and screwed the slats. Persoanly I did not worry about tuning. All I knew is that my room size had major build ups at around 60 cycles. I felt the best way to absorb them was superchunks. Personaly I don't tink the variance in slat distance does anything, If I had made them all the same distance I don't think anything would have changed. After building the room and mixing in it is seems abvious to me that the general concepts are more important than the details. So my ceiling is a super chunk broadband slat! hahaha It works!! Now that I see how effective superchunks are at absorbing ultra lows, my tracking room is going to get a 2' x 2' super chunk around the intire perimiter of the ceiling. I see in your drawing you have half hangers and half chunk in your ceiling corner. Is that the back of the room? If it is then yes that is almost identical to mine. I also filled that intire space with rockwool. So have a super chunk there is well. As well as the left side corner. Where your gobo is I just filled the frame with rockwool 4 inches. BTW, my speakers are in concrete boxes. I heard some one here say they did that so I did it too.very tuff to make but well worth it!. I was going to go with a simple cloud, but have also been thinking of a similar idea to what you've made. Do you find yours to have a major advantage over a cloud? Also, did you tune the slats to a specific frequency?
Thanks man. I don't think i would go that far but I do appreciate that compiment. Thanks.Eruss - what you have here, mate, is quite simply nothing short of tantamount to awesome :wink: Very many congrats regards Lou 8)
HAHAHAHA But you inspired me so much I just could not stop. One thing I know now is that a room full of wood like ours is much prettier in person than the pictures. For the tracking room I am going to use pine. The oak really damaged my bank account. :D But is sure is plaseant to be in such a room isn't it? guests really like it too.hey ERUSS!!!!! you beat me man! i had to take the summer off from my build. just got back to work, started fishin around hear again and BAM! you're all set! haha, looks great! i'm nearing the end of my build, can't wait to start bringin my gear in. peace. here's mine as of tonight. http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewt ... sc&start=0
Could you post a few pictures of the construction of this.
Dude - sorry man! I still say it's awesome, and, with your kind permission, I'm gonna steal the concrete box gag, perfect for what I'm planning. Could I just ask though - what sort of hole you left at the back of the concrete for cabling? No rush gonna be weeks yet. :roll:
Keep it coming Eruss,
Regards,
Lou. 8)
Sure you can steal that idea. I stole it from some one else! :P Yeah, my speakers are passive so all I needed was a small hole. It is about the size of a thumb or so. I drilled it through the bottom. So I have one small hole that comes up through the wood that the speaker box sits on and then it continues through the bottom of the concrete box. Be sure to leave a little space in the back of the concrete box for the wire so you doesn't crip it too much.Dude - sorry man! I still say it's awesome, and, with your kind permission, I'm gonna steal the concrete box gag, perfect for what I'm planning. Could I just ask though - what sort of hole you left at the back of the concrete for cabling? No rush gonna be weeks yet. :roll: Keep it coming Eruss, Regards, Lou. 8)
Haha I might jump on that one too! :twisted: How did you make the concrete box? Looks quite a challenge! Does it have a back, or is it just the sides? Is it secured to the frame at all, or just placed on the "shelf"? Do you have any rubber pads or any isolation inside or outside the box? ...How does it sound in the room :twisted: :twisted: Thanks, GarethSure you can steal that idea. I stole it from some one else!
HAHAHA!! I think it was the hardests part of the whole room. One would think it easy to build a box....but nooooooo...... it's not! If anyone knows the easy way to build this then let me know. I am still wondering how to do it. However, I made a box, from wood, that was bigger than my over all speaker. I then built a box the size of my speakers. I poored concrete in the bottom of the big box up a little then I placed the little box in and pooered the concrtete in around the sides. It took 3 days to fully dry. Then I carefully chipped out the little box. Yes it has a back. It is more than 1inch thick all the way around. And yes, I think it contributes greatly to the sound because everything the speaker produces gets thrown out the front. And yes I set it on 1inch thick peice of aircraft grade neoprine that I picked up at a army surrplus store.Haha I might jump on that one too! :twisted: How did you make the concrete box? Looks quite a challenge! Does it have a back, or is it just the sides? Is it secured to the frame at all, or just placed on the "shelf"? Do you have any rubber pads or any isolation inside or outside the box? ...How does it sound in the room :twisted: :twisted: Thanks, GarethSure you can steal that idea. I stole it from some one else!
Hah! well It seems like a good idea and I do remember my Grandpa telling me ages ago that "in the old day we used to put speakers into concrete boxes". Why not leave the concrete in the wood box, rather than removing the wood box afterwards? I guess it doesn't make that much difference really, but saves a little effort? Anyway that sounds like a great idea... I'll just have to find some sheets of neoprene somewhere:P Thanks GarethHAHAHA!! I think it was the hardests part of the whole room. One would think it easy to build a box....but nooooooo...... it's not! If anyone knows the easy way to build this then let me know. I am still wondering how to do it. However, I made a box, from wood, that was bigger than my over all speaker. I then built a box the size of my speakers. I poored concrete in the bottom of the big box up a little then I placed the little box in and pooered the concrtete in around the sides. It took 3 days to fully dry. Then I carefully chipped out the little box. Yes it has a back. It is more than 1inch thick all the way around. And yes, I think it contributes greatly to the sound because everything the speaker produces gets thrown out the front. And yes I set it on 1inch thick peice of aircraft grade neoprine that I picked up at a army surrplus store.
In my case it would have been too wide to fit in the space I had. But in your case it might not. It depends how you build it. I am a rookie! You probably are a better builder than me.Why not leave the concrete in the wood box, rather than removing the wood box afterwards? I guess it doesn't make that much difference really, but saves a little effort? Anyway that sounds like a great idea... I'll just have to find some sheets of neoprene somewhere:P Thanks Gareth
Haha I'm a rookie too! First time im doing this - or any DIY building stuff for that matter! I'm only 19 :oops: Ahh okay I can probably make it all fit, will have to check some measurements though. Thanks for the tips :D GarethIn my case it would have been too wide to fit in the space I had. But in your case it might not. It depends how you build it. I am a rookie! You probably are a better builder than me.
Hey eruss,
If you're still around could you just give me one pointer?
Did you put the neoprene INSIDE the concrete box for the speaker itself to sit on, or did you put the actual concrete box ON the neoprene?
Thanks,
Gareth
I put the concrete box ON the neoprine. You want the box to be as tight around the speaker as you can. But, a word of experience> make sure you have a way to adjust the box so you can have it set level. You don't want your speakers sitting at an angle pointed to the ceiling or off kilter in any way. I actualy put shims in the back of my box to make the speakers sit level. If you build all this right, yuo are going to be one happy canper when you get done.Hey eruss, If you're still around could you just give me one pointer? Did you put the neoprene INSIDE the concrete box for the speaker itself to sit on, or did you put the actual concrete box ON the neoprene? Thanks, Gareth