I have a garage the is 30 x 35 and I want to build a control room a decent size live room and a vocal booth. my thing is I only have $20,000 to work with for construction. is it possible if I do it myself? And if so what will I have to consider purchasing?
All I have is $20,000
Originally posted at johnlsayers.com, topic 8808.
I suppose it's possible to build something - but it won't include any isolation from the otside world to speak of - and it won't include very much in the way of acoustic treatments.
You have an available area of 1050 s.f with a budget of 20,000 - that comes to 19.04 per square foot.
If I build the cheapest house I could possibly build - my hard costs will be around 70 per square foot.
And I am not building a recording studio for that. (although I do acknowledge that I am not starting with a finished shell either).
I design studios and can tell you that I have a client right now building out a clean neat small control room with a small iso-booth (no live room) The 2 rooms come to a total of 311 s.f. His budget is 30,000 and he will have a hard time keeping his numbers within that budget.
That's a little closer to reality......... cost per square foot wise.
My recommendation to you would be to 1st sit down and come up with an actual plan of what you want to build - it has to be very exact as to what you want to do - is shoud include lights, power, HVAC (include fresh air), each and every sheetof drywall, rolls of tape - gallons of compound, sand paper to sand it with - nails, screws, doors, windows, finishes - room treatments, trim, trim nails, saw blades, etc., etc., etc.
That plan should be detailed to the point of identifying each and every piece of wood framing it will take you to build this - you should have nothing left to the imagination.
You then break out the cost for each room seperately........ and be very realistic about this - what ever you estimate the cost to be - add another 15 to 20% on top of that - don't think for a moment that you have everything thought out or covered.
Even in the real world of big construction - we carry in our budgets monies in a budget field called "contingency" to cover the things we didn't think of or couldn't see when we bid the project. I promise yo there will be times where you are ready to work and slap yourself on the forhead and say "damn, I need_______________" and have to run to home despot to pick something up before you can work.
If this happens to people who bid jobs every day of their life - that's their actual job - believe me when I say it will happen to you.
OK - so now you have a room by room budget - covering everything you can think of - with a 15% contingency for "just in case" ........
Now pick which room means the most to you first - let's say for the purpose of conversation that would be the live room so you have somewhere to practice with your band......... then build out that room complete - the best that it can be - and ignore the rest.
Then start saving your money again.........
It makes no sense what so ever for you to try to build everything at once if in the end you have 3 rooms that are a piece of crap that are 1/2 finished - sound like hell and you hate the fact that this is the way life is.
It does make sense for you to make the best you have with your money - which - when it's finished = you are going to love - and its going to feel soooooo good that you will be missing the rooms you don't have - and will have all sorts of incentives to save money to get the rest of it done.
I hope this helped although I know it isn't what you wanted to hear.
Sincerely,
Rod
Ok....now I will answer on the other end of the spectrum. I am a relative newbie to this forum for sure, and admittedly not any where near as seasoned in terms of high-end studio design as others on this board. So with all due respect to all the deep thinkers on this board, I will offer up a counterpoint.
Being that I am just completing a ground-up studio build myself, I can speak only from my own experiences with this studio, and my previous three home studios. I work a full-time day gig as an engineer, and I have a side business as a licensed builder. My home studio these days is primarily for personal use, although I do offer time to a select few friends as well.
When I started this studio build, I went into to it with a CLEAR picture of what the general use of the studio would be, and the budget I would need. In my mind, studio design is as much about who will be using the space, and HOW as it is anything else. Will it be a 60-hour per week commercial studio with bands parading in and out, or will it be primarily a project studio for personal use only? Then I would consider the need for isolation based on the type of music, work habits, and proximity to other contributing factors...ie...neighbors, street noise, on and on. Finally, BUDGET always plays a huge role. Unless you have very deep pockets, it is simply impossible to build a studio by the book, with the whole list of "must haves" as told by the experts. In fact, if you look through these forums, except for a chosen few, most on here have built some really great spaces by mastering the art of compromise. In an ideal world, the sky is the limit. But at least for me, (and likely others here as well), there are other demands on my money such as mortgage, food, etc.. So the money I was able to use on my studio was not a lot by many people standards, but certainly a ton for me.
That said....my project scope was as follows: Being that my children are now out of college and out of the house, my wife and I tired of maintaining a 3500 sq. foot house, 3 acres of land, and paying $8000 a year in R.E taxes. So we decided to downsize to a 1500 sq.ft ranch with a 1/4 acre lot, and LOW taxes. When we did, the first thing that was obvious to me was that I was going to have to address two issue: First being, the place had no garage. That's like having pants with no pockets. Secondly...where in the HELL am I going to put my studio?
The answer to me was obvious......build a garage with a studio above.
While I certainly had some inherent design issues to overcome, I am thrilled with the results.
Due to space limitations and setback requirements, as well as trying to keep the building in keeping with the neighborhood and the main house, I was limited to a 22 x 24 garage.
My TOTAL budget for this project from dirt to doorknobs was $50,000.
Building the basic structure which included excavation, foundation, floor, frame, roof, siding, windows, garage doors, etc.. cost me roughly $25K. That is doing things with good quality materials, and building a structure that no only will function well as a studio, but one that I can be proud of.
Keep in mind too that I did most of the work myself which saved a good deal of cash.
So...that left approx. $25,000 to build a comfortable, functional, attractive studio. My wish list was:
1. A good size control room.
Note: as I mentioned before, I knew going in what my work style and needs were, and for me, a big control room and small ISO booth work best.
2. A small ISO booth to track vox, guitars, drums.
3. A reasonable amount of isolation from outside, to outside, and room to room.
4. A reasonably good sounding environment to achieve good results.
5. Better than adequate heating/cooling.
6. Pleasing aesthetics.
7. Good lighting, including natural light.....yep......actual WINDOWS in a studio!
8. Acceptable storage...see #10.
9. Hardwood floors
10. Cherry cabinetry, granite cabinets, under cabinet lighting, etc..
A lot to ask of a tight budget. However, with careful choices, knowing what my budget and end goal was, I can say beyond any doubt that I am thrilled with the result. My studio has reasonably good isolation, sounds fantastic, and has a killer vibe. I am midway through my first session and am thrilled with the sound. Budget-wise, I came in just under...due to being able to do most of the work myself.
So what is the point of this post? Well....it is easy to make a blanket statement.....ah, you can't do it for this much money....etc....but the bottom line is with COMPROMISE and some creative thinking, It CAN be done. Much of it has to do with knowing exactly what your end goal is.
If I went by the book I am sure this studio would have cost me $20k more than it did. If I posted here a step by step on the compromises I had to make to get it done under my budget, I am POSITIVE I would have been torn from limb to limb for cutting corners.
I had three choices going in....
1: Ah, you can't build it for that much money and still do it "right". So...don't build it.
2: Ah, you can't build it for that much money and still do it "right".
So...wait, save a bunch of money, and do it "right".
3: Take my budget and make it work for me, and end up with a project I am extremely happy with.
In the end, I have a VERY functional, VERY comfortable recording environment that works well for ME, that all who see it love....AND.......I still can pay the mortgage and the gorcery bills!
That's a very interesting point of view Mickdoo. I completely understand where you're coming from. At the same time, I understand what Rod is saying also. For each of us we have to weigh the positives of the the studio build with the negatives. C'mon, let's face it...on this site most of us are trying build our studios to "status quo". What I mean is "most" people don't want to get on here and build something that's not "politically correct", but I'll BETCHA there are MANY that cut corners (that are not considered the proper way to build something). Now, if it's something concerning SAFETY, I can't see someone doing that. However, if it's just a matter of doing something a different way, each individual has to decide that. Hey, I used flexduct which is NOT a highly recommended duct to use on here. But, I could not find nor could I afford something like Johns Manville superduct. So, what did I do?? I used FLEXDUCT. For my application is was the best ALTERNATIVE.
This is how I see it and will do my studio plain and simple...
I will try my best to build it SAFELY and with quality. I will look at my funds and build accordingly. If I can't afford neoprene and I've got plain ol' rubber, I'll use rubber. I'll ask questions on here and decide for "ME, for ME, for ME, for M-E if I can afford certain items and if I can build it in the correct method that's described on here. To me, I'll look at Rod's comments along with others' comments then come to my OWN conclusion-decision. In the end, it's ME that has to live with the end results, so if I don't have the BEST sound isolation, so be it. Thing is to get the KNOWLEDGE you need first then stand your own ground to do what's best for you.
That is my point exactly. Good studio design THEORY comes from books....and if practice...(BUDGET) meet theory, then so be it. It's great to have the theory of good studio design and the concepts behind you, but if you can't spend the dough of the big boys it certainly doesnt mean you don't build the studio. It simply means you compromise where you have to to make it work. FOR ME...the bottom line is the end product. I have a friend who has the most amazing wood shop you ever saw in your life.....but the product he turns out doesn't compare to what I can do in the field with an old circular saw, a tape measure, and a hammer. By the way....I never implied in ANY WAY that safety or the lack thereof came into play. If you build to code, safety should be a non-issue.For each of us we have to weigh the positives of the the studio build with the negatives.
Mick, With all due respect......... Just because I don't want the original poster to get lost in the mix here (pun intended) let's get a comparison running between the 2 studios. His Studio - 1,050 s.f. Your Studio - 528 s.f. Your studio is 50.2 percent the size of his. Your budget - 25,000 for studio build out His budget - 20,000 for studio build out Your budget is 1.25 times the size of his budget. His allowable cost per square foot - 19.04 per square foot. Your allowable cost per square foot....... 47.35 per square foot. You have 2.49 times his allowable budget - which would be the same as his budget (to build equivilent to your construction - with cutting corners) being 49,737. Or - you building your studio (that cost you 25,000 dollars) - for 10,053.12. Now- are you telling me that you threw away 15,000 dollar getting extravagant - is reality that you could have built what you did for just 10 grand? I am not a prima-donna. I tried in my post to get the person who asked the question to focus on his needs first - establish a set of plans that met his needs - price out exactly what all of this would cost him - and then build the best he could afford to build. I think that's sound advice for anyone. You have a very VERY large advantage over the original poster........... and you have to realize that this also comes into play here. Not only are you a licensed contractor - which Viziter is obviously not in any way shape or manner BUT - you are also an engineer (by that do you mean a recording engineer - or one of the physical sciences?) AND you have already constructed 3 other home studios. I would imagine it should be pretty easy for you (by this point in time) to determine exactly what level of isolation you'll get out of a particular construction - and to exactly what degree you need and want isolation. Viziter doesn't have a clue. I would also imagine that you know some great idea for room treatments, perhaps even some that haven't been discussed here often - Viziter (on the other hand) doesn't have a clue....... i'm not putting Viziter down - none of us were born knowing what we know today.......... but how can you compare your statement of:Due to space limitations and setback requirements, as well as trying to keep the building in keeping with the neighborhood and the main house, I was limited to a 22 x 24 garage.
with his statement of:When I started this studio build, I went into to it with a CLEAR picture of what the general use of the studio would be, and the budget I would need.
And, as regards your statement of:I have a garage the is 30 x 35 and I want to build a control room a decent size live room and a vocal booth. my thing is I only have $20,000 to work with for construction. is it possible if I do it myself? And if so what will I have to consider purchasing?
My response is - not with his budget it can't. You could not build what you did with a 10,000 budget....... it's physically impossible - even you will have to admit that. And that is what your budget would be if you extrapolate his budget and square footage into yours. I stand by my original post - I do not believe it's possible to do anywhere near a decent 1,050 s.f. studio with a budget of 19 dollars a square foot. He needs to figure out exactly what he wants to build - and then determine what he can afford to build out of it now. There definately are limits to how cheaply someone can build something that is usable for the task at hand.......... believing that you can always build something cheaper can be proven wrong by just realizing that if every time you built it you believe you could cut just one dollar off the cost - one day you would not only build it for free - eventually it would pay you to build it. So (seeing as we know this is impossible) there IS a definative bottom line to what is a reasonable budget - sounds to me like (you) with a lot of hard work - careful fore sight - talent, past experiences and very careful planning - found out how to get to that point - I also think it would take someone who had someone giving them a lot of gifts to pull off what you did for less than 1/2 the cost. Sincerely, RodSo what is the point of this post? Well....it is easy to make a blanket statement.....ah, you can't do it for this much money....etc....but the bottom line is with COMPROMISE and some creative thinking, It CAN be done.
:lol: :lol: :lol: CLASSIC! :lol: :lol: :lol: Seriously -- lots of good stuff here. Good learning material for everyone. 8) --Keith :mrgreen:believing that you can always build something cheaper can be proven wrong by just realizing that if every time you built it you believe you could cut just one dollar off the cost - one day you would not only build it for free - eventually it would pay you to build it.
Rod, you make many good points, and I fundamentally agree with much of what you said, however perhaps I see things from a bit of a different slant than many of the longtimers on this board. When I first found this site, I was psyched to find such a fantastic resource for studio design information. I read many of the posts, and found some really good stuff, and some good people who knew what they were talking about. I also found MANY instances of lower end would-be studio owners basically ignored or given the :roll: when posting here. To me, there is doing it 100% right by "the book", OR setting up a mixer in a basement with a bunch of egg cartons, and then there is the real world, which is usually somewhere in the middle. MOST studio owners, particularly small studio owners, do not have the budget to do it by "the book", :roll: , but they are still looking for sound advice. Am I saying that you can build a 1000sq.ft studio right for $20k? Of course not. I am just saying that you can find as many cases of people being ignored or given the snicker treatment on here as you can people being given good advice. (no Rod...I am not saying you gave him the snicker treatment).
I have found over the many years I have been involved in the studio industry that there is a certain :roll: factor when it comes to studios/design/etc.. I think it has been been fed over the last several years with the advent of affordable recording solutions and the resulting decline of commercial studios. Sometimes it is simply hard to admit that while NOT the norm, it IS possible for some snotty nose kid with a Pro Tools LE system and a good set of ears to crank out recordings done in his livingroom that can stand up to those done in million dollar studios. By the same token, I have been in some brilliantly designed, high-end studios where I would be embarassed to have my name associated with the resulting product.
Case in point....a local kid called me recently to ask if I could set up some mastering for a project he was working on. I told him to bring it over, I would have a listen, and we would talk. He recorded 12 songs using a Digi 002, Pro Tools LE, a bunch of cheap mics, Alesis monitors, and a SE reflection filter...in his mother's livingroom. The kid is 19 years old, and has never stepped foot inside a studio, but his recordings are absolutely stunning quality, rivaling some of the best recordings I have heard. Granted, the kid reads a ton, and obviously has a gift, but my point is that had he come on here and asked for advice before hand, he would have been told it couldn't be done.
He would have been told....read all of these forums, backwards, TWICE, buy Rod's book, and come back and see us when you get a clue!
:lol: :lol: :lol: CLASSIC! :lol: :lol: :lol:
This is a fabulous resource for deep thinkers with big budgets and thick skin. I would just like to see it become a little more accepting of the guys just starting out, who would like to get into the studio thang and just need some help.
Mick, I understand what you're saying, from my perspective I suppose I view my responsibility to help (as much as I can in this hands off world we're communicating in) to help people who really don't have a clue to understand that they need first to educate themselves - and then to further help them(as they grow) to not throught thewir money away. For as many successes as you have had - I cringe when I think of some kid coming in and saying: "I spent thousands of dollars and strill can't play in my room because it's too loudfor the neighbors. What can I do? Do I just keep adding drywall?" To which I reply " tell us exactly what you have now" and the response ends up outlining such a mess that the only possible way to fix the problem is to literally rip arapteverything he's done and start over from the beginning. I've seen it in commercial ventures (one was rental practice spaces totaling over 3,000 s.f.) where the guys built elevated platforms on U-boats that ended up being nothing more than drum heads - with the only solution to the problem being to rip up the decks and fill them with sand. They could have saved at ton of money if they had only listened in the first place. If thew original poster gets even 1/2 as methodical as I suggest he does - he's going to get there. And I have no problem working with people with tight budgets - I never ignore them - but i won't sugar coat what they're up against either. As far as my book goes....... I think it's a pretty decent book covering a lot of differnt options on how to make it from A to B - and I deliberately tried to break away from the "only one way to do it" mentality when I put it all together. Sincerely, Rodbut my point is that had he come on here and asked for advice before hand, he would have been told it couldn't be done. He would have been told....read all of these forums, backwards, TWICE, buy Rod's book, and come back and see us when you get a clue! :lol: :lol: :lol: CLASSIC! :lol: :lol: :lol: This is a fabulous resource for deep thinkers with big budgets and thick skin. I would just like to see it become a little more accepting of the guys just starting out, who would like to get into the studio thang and just need some help.
By the same token, when isolation is a top concern, it's downright torture to see that someone spent four or even five figures, only to be disappointed in the results due to lack of research or lack of funds. In my opinion, if one doesn't have the money to do it "right," they definitely don't have the money to do it "over." :)
Good points being made by all. 8)
--Keith :mrgreen:
Agreed with all of this, there are definitely good points being made.
My take is, the point of this forum is to help people learn and to maximize their results given their building situations and budgets.
In my mind, Rod represents one end of the spectrum; he tells us like it is, unwavering, purely grounded in reality. Furthermore, The Way Of Rod will result in an ultra-high end construction, and provided people can afford the budget of The Way Of Rod, they will in all likelihood be thrilled with the result.
I am SO glad that Rod is here to point the way for us, inching all of us ever-closer to a high end studio in our basement/garage.
Unfortunately, Rod doing his Rod thing can come across as somewhat curmudgeonly to the uninitiated. Note that this has nothing to do with Rod; anyone who espouses a certain viewpoint, involving high end construction materials and budgets, and a very narrow (even if correct) view of The Right Way To Do It, will come across as being curmudgeonly. To support this point, I enter Sharward as Exhibit B. :twisted: And certainly I have no doubt that I am perceived this way on other forums as well. It's the nature of the beast.
Bottom line, we are all excited about our studios, we want them to be built, we want them to sound good, and if someone tells us that It Can't Be Done then we will tend to rebel, and shout, "curmudgeon!" :twisted: I'm very glad that this forum, with all its curmudgeons, are here to help us all out.
Exhibit "B" Reporting... ;-) :lol:
I think it is fair to say this:
Success is defined by project owners on a project-to-project basis. If one has certain must-have goals and is able to achieve them, then by definition that is a success.
Where it gets fuzzy is that people often aren't very explicit about their goals. When that occurs, we all start making assumptions, based largely on what our own goals would be. When we measure the imaginary goals against the stated limitations (usually budget), we make conclusions about the achievability of the unarticulated goals, using our fictitious goals as a substitute.
This serves as a reminder to everyone to clearly state their goals when asking their questions, as well as a reminder to everyone answering the questions not to make assumptions about the goals. 8)
The one thing that I (and I suspect Rod, and others) will always presume to be goals in a project is safety, structural integrity, and code compliance. Oh, alright, that's three things... But they're like peas in a pod when you think about it. So, if someone has a limited budget and certain stated goals, we'll assume it's going to be done safely, sturdily, and legitimately, which will increase costs over doing it unsafely, flimsily, and/or illegally, which may condemn it to the "it can't be done" category.
Another thing... Sometimes we have goals in mind when we start a project (any project, not just studios), and then in while executing the project, we make compromises that compromise the outcome. Often the compromises are made with full knowledge, or at least high suspicion, that achieving the goals will or may be impacted, and then we usually adjust the goals accordingly. I also sometimes think there's a pride factor that comes into play when someone finishes a project and it doesn't achieve the goals as expected. Adjusting the expectation after the project is finished in order to call it a success isn't legitimate in my opinion. Simply put, such a project failed to meet its goals. We need to be more comfortable admitting when that happens so that we (and others) can learn from the experience.
I recognize that the "Way of Rod" (and the inferred "Way of Keith" ;-)) reference is just an illustration and an abbreviation of the things we tend to stand for... But it bears pointing out, for the record, that we didn't make these things up. (Well, sometimes I do make things up by accident, but then, thank goodness, Rod is quick to correct me! :lol:) As such, they really shouldn't be named after us... Unless of course it is unique to Rod's fine book, in which case, please be my guest with such Rodification references. 8)
--Keith :mrgreen:
--Keith :mrgreen:
Well said, Sharward. Obviously you or Rod didn't make this stuff up, it comes from building code, centuries of evolution in construction experties, etc. Just that I often see the two of you articulating detailed, consistent representations of that point of view.
Also, I wanted to clarify that, when I talk of different viewpoints, I talk of this forum and others. There are other fora where I am appalled at the acoustics or studio-building advice that I see. But for many, egg crates on the walls have a discernible and beneficial effect. Whatever. :roll: Luckily, people can find their way here and be set straight. :twisted:
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Second, most of the materials in the designs here are wood and insulation. If the poster can find a cheap source for these materials, it would be possible to come close to his budget.
Third, I have heard people in expensive studios make bad recordings. I have heard people in home studios with some auralex put up here and there make great recordings. So, it is mostly about ones ability to make the recording sound good and not about the budget on materials.
My suggestion is to examine your electrical and HVAC situation. If you have something there that you can work with that would not cost you alot to apgrade then begin to look for soursces of Pine 1x 4s and pine 2x4s and insulation. If you can find extreamly cheap or possibly free sources for those materials than you are 3/4 thay way to meeting your budget.
It will mostly depend on your situation and resources and your willingness to comprmise astetics for function. $20 per square foot will be hard but not impossible. End the end though it is about making the recording sound good! You certainly don't need $20,000 to do that.
eruss, this is your first and only warning you will receive from me before I recommend to John that your account be disabled.
- I will not tolerate your passive aggressive indrect swipe at the relatively small number of "real experts" who are extremely generous with their time in a genuine effort to help others, free of charge.
Viziter,
As regards the recent post by eruss,
I'm not going to address his statements regarding quality of recordings because there's no need to . A real pro can make some good music in bad rooms- and the best putz couldn't make a god recording in Power Station.
As to his stements regarding what you can build for little to no investment - he's right.......
if someone donates a ton of materials to you - you can build cheap - in fact if they give you everythig you can do it for free....... heck- even better - if they give you all the materials pus 20 grand you can make 20 grand in the process.......
so if i were you I would just concentrate on finding someone rich who liked me....
Seriously - my advice to you was good advice........
first you have to figure out what you want -
then you have to accurately figure out what it will take to make that happen.
Once you know that - it's easy to figure the cost out.
Just be realistic that's all.
The fact that you stated in your original post
suggests to me that you still have some more homework t do befor you would be ready to plan your studio. Take your time and make the use of the people here to educate you on what does and doesn't work..... come up with a plan for your space and let John (and others) have a look at it so they can point out where you might be heading down a wrong path - or perhaps guide you in a direction that will save you time and movney but you get a better space. An important part of that is (of course) making an honest assessment of what degree of isolation you require. If you have neighbors close and you want to play hard rock at three i te morning then you will need soe serious isolation - and that takes a lot of mass in asemblies that are properly built. So just start there and see where you end up...... in the end - it's all up to you how it omes out anyway. Sincerely, RodAnd if so what will I have to consider purchasing?
You guys are rude and your advise is not always true as you brag about. Experts can't be building studios if they post on websites 50 hours a day like Rod. People that give away something for free should do it humblely. You guys don't do that. You are full of yourselves. Actually your advise to me was not free. I gave you money. I see you guys have had many tiffs with people who challenge you. The only person I see that has humility is John Sayer himself. He rarely comes here like Rod. I assume that is because he actually is out there building studios. Please delete all my posts! I would rather not ba ascosiated with you guys.eruss, this is your first and only warning you will receive from me before I recommend to John that your account be disabled.I will not tolerate your passive aggressive indrect swipe at the relatively small number of "real experts" who are extremely generous with their time in a genuine effort to help others, free of charge.
For the record, questions, and even challenges, regarding the advice given on this forum is not only accepted, but encouraged. Your (now edited) post went well beyond that, and I still have memory of a past exchange that came close. Ordinarily I would send this warning privately, but I feel that I must proclaim this in a public manner so as to defend the honor of the VIPs who make this amazing learning resource even possible.
1st of all eruss, I never claimed to be out building studios - i am not a builder. I am however an expert in my field - and am always buried in work - now being no different than any other time. I did (back arounf the time of Power station and Studio 15) used to have project management as a part of what I did - but there is just no time for that anymore - so I do not actively take a part in the construction of projects any more. I am an engineer who specializes in multiple disciplines, one of which happens to be acoustics. If you want to see some of my projects - visit my website - the last one was 3/4 billion dollars and ate 4 years of my life.. I consult with that company about 3 days a week for now ...... and the other 4 days I am busy with design. I have a design I just finished for a nice guy in NC - will only take a couple of trips down there to make sure things turn out alright....... this is his take on my credibility:Experts can't be building studios if they post on websites 50 hours a day like Rod.
You can (of course) always read about his project yourself if you wish: http://recording.org/ftopic-21631-days0-orderasc-0.html I also have a project under design for a customer in Canada - am consulting with Jon on the Meow Mix Studio in MA. - it's a great design by John Sayers. Tomorrow I meet with Dennis Cham from Hit Productions in the Phillipeans to finalize what looks like a great long term relationship that will begin with design of their newest studio. This relationship should last for years with my providing services to their firm as they expand. You can check out their firm here: http://www.hitproductions.net/ BTW - just in case you were interested - I worked the Adreian's Landing Project full time days (500,000 sf convention center - high rise 4 diamond hotel etc., etc.) while working nights on my book for a year straight - and still found the time to come here and offer my assistance to anyone who wanted it. It's easy to do when you spend most of your life working on a computer and just set your preferences to give you a buzz when a thread you're interested in has a new post. It's all about time management. Oh yeah - I almost forgot - I'm right now smack dab in the middle of design of a home studio for Godfrey Diamond ........ This is a great guy who has recorded some of the best over the years.... and goes back to the days of Tony Bongiovi and Mowtown... He picked up a beautiful brownstone in the heart of Brooklyn NY and then we put a deal together...... You can check out his credentials at his website if you wish....... http://www.godprod.com/sound/index.htm. other than that and the new book that I'm currently working on - I guess you're right - I really don't have much to do........... Sincerely, RodI spoke with a couple of general contractors who I respect for their honesty and the quality of their work... They put eyes on the prints... and indeed were impressed with the quality and detail Rod has provided.
eruss,
One last thing, just for the record and all that.........
I didn't respond to your statement because I had to - i say that because your opinion of me does not affect my life........
I did (however) respond to it because you left the opening to show just how little credibility you have -
you make blanket statements on things that you have no knowledge of as if you were speaking fact..........
If I could offer you my absolutely best advice - if you know nothing of a subject other than what you may or may not believe (which is not the same as knowledge) you would be better suited to not speak to the subject unless you couch your statements with things like - "hey guys - I don't know , but I think that................." or "I might be mistaken but I believe it might be............."
Or you could do what I do............ avoid toching on those subjects at all.
That's why you never see me post anywhere on things like recording techniques, opinions about recording gear.......... things like that.
I am an expert in one field and one field only - I avoid trying to make it appear otherwise.........
I hope that helps,
sincerely,
Rod
That's all, folks.
To the thread starter: Once you have goals and a plan to articulate, please start a new thread. We'll be very interested in what you come up with and are assured the attention of many to help you achieve success as you define it.
Again, there was some really good discussion here with lots to learn by all, eruss' arrogance notwithstanding.
--Keith :mrgreen: