I've read though the plans on this site for rooms,and garage's. Although they seem awesome,there a bit more complex than my needs.
Here's what I have: 2 car garage 17'x20'
What I would love to get out of it is a great mix room,and a decent sized iso room for loud gtr amps,and acoustic gtr,and vocals. (No drums will be tracked in here)
I'd love any addvice on the basiic room dimentions.
I don't need a bathroom,office,etc. I just want the two rooms.
I've read quite a bit on treating the room,as well as several methods of construction.But all I'm trying to figure out right now is the basic layout/dimentions,for these two rooms.
Again,I'd like to make the control room as ideal as possible for mixing.
Thanks to all shared info. I really appriciate it! :D
2 car garage help please
Originally posted at johnlsayers.com, topic 8025.
http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4206
See Detached Garage Studio, bottom of page...
Thanks. I actually saw this one ,and thought it looked great. Are these optimum dimentions for a control room?
Also,I don't need the extra iso rooms,etc. Just mix room,and an iso room.
And my garage is 17'x20'
Paper, pencil, ruler, reference books... :idea:
Just curious what a RUFF estimate of cost is on your Detached Garage studio plan?
I'm starting with just a garage.(Bare studs,need to add outside door)
Can it be done for $5000? $10,000?
Also,whats the cheapest type of AC unit,that would be suitable for a garage like this?
Thanks for all your help!
Any reference books you could recommend? Much Thanks.Paper, pencil, ruler, reference books... :idea:
Aloha and welcome to the forum,
Here's an excerpt from the SAE site:Are these optimum dimentions for a control room?
That said, there have been many home studios built that have a smaller footprint than the one above, and have produced good results. In Rod Gervais’ book “Build it Like the Pros,” he points out both L.W.Sepmeyer’s & M.M. Louden’s formulas most widely used in professional studios worldwide. He also notes that the orders listed are (top to bottom) the first to third best ratios in both cases. L.W. Sepmeyer Height Width Length 1.00 1.14 1.39 1.00 1.28 1.54 1.00 1.60 2.33 M.M. Louden Height Width Length 1.00 1.40 1.90 1.00 1.30 1.90 1.00 1.50 2.10 What would be helpful is your ceiling height in order to determine what the rest of the room will be.So what size should a control room be? These days people are building bigger and bigger control rooms because so much happens in the control room now. Often the bass player and keyboard player actually sit in the control room. I often have the vocalist singing in the control room while the bed tracks go down, so a good size control room is a good idea. So many people think that you need a big studio and end up putting a poky little room at the end and call it a control room. I suggest that a control room ideally should be at least 6m x 5m with a minimum ceiling height of 2.4m. This size room means a good sized working area with space for the musos, friends and hangers on. Also because you don't want rear reflections to interfere it is better to start with a longer front to back dimension than the side to side dimension. i.e. 6m x 5m. The studio, on the other hand, requires a different set of considerations. The first to consider is do you want just one room or more? The trend nowadays is for more than one studio so the you can get isolation between players and different acoustics for each room. The acoustics you want for a live drum sound is totally different than you want for a vocal for example. I recommend at least 2 rooms. You can put drums in one, guitars in the other, keys , vocals and bass (DI) in the control room or maybe the band in one and the vocalist in the other. Getting separation between guitars and drums is usually OK in a good sized room but keeping them out of the vocal track is hard if they are all in the same room.
Here's a good one - Home Recording Studio: Build it Like the Pros (Paperback) by Rod Gervais http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5670 More useful links - Reference Area – Useful Links – Steve Knightfly http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2125 SAE Institute Reference Material Center – John Sayers http://www.saecollege.de/reference_material/index.html DIY Wall Units – John Sayers http://www.johnlsayers.com/HR/index1.htm Hope this helps, Aloha 8)Any reference books you could recommend?
Man,thank you so much.This has been very helpfull. I'm gonna go buy some books,and start reading.
Thanks again.
Aloha,
No worries!
So...um...what...is your ceiling height? :wink:
Aloha 8)
It can be almost whatever I make it. It's sort of an A frame 2 car garage,attached to the house. Where it attaches to the house is the highest peak. It's an A frame,with the front of garage also sloping to the top peak. I know I'm not explaining this very well.Sorry. Imagine 3 of the 4 ceiling walls sloping towards the peak,in the center of the room. I downloaded the google scketch program,and I'm learning to get around on it. Hopefully soon,Ii can post a REALLY RUFF scketch of my garage. Do you have any preferences,as to how high the ceiling is? Should it be the same height,or can (should) it slope upward? I'm dealing with 17'x20' ,and need a great mix room,and an iso booth for amps,vocals,and acoustic gtr. Hopefully a semi big iso booth,but a larger mix room. Thanks again. :)Aloha, No worries! So...um...what...is your ceiling height? :wink: Aloha 8)
Aloha,
The slope of your roofline will play a part in your design. Can you post a couple of pics (interior/exterior - 700 pixels wide, please) so we can see what you'll be working with?
Aloha 8)
Aloha,
The slope of your roofline will play a part in your design. It's been said that a "picture paints a thousand words"...can you post a couple of pics (interior/exterior - 700 pixels wide, please) so we can see what you'll be working with? Aloha 8)I know I'm not explaining this very well. Sorry. Imagine 3 of the 4 ceiling walls sloping towards the peak,in the center of the room.
if you want to leverage the extra space above the control room and live room, knowing the actual dimensions (including doors and windows, electrical , plumbing etc) and seeing some photos will be very helpful. it sounds like tou have a "hip roof" which may make using that space a bit more complex depending on how you ultimately lay things out. what you don't want to do is create a non-symmetrical shape around the primary mix area. this may mean putting in some additional ceiling structure to shape it.
if you turn the CR sideways you lose some of the complexity but also some of the space and I'm guessing you'd still have to do something with the ceiling.
I do indeed have a "Hip roof". I was thinking of lowering the ceiling to a consitant 9'.That way,there would be no Un-symetrical shape to deal with.
Here's my latest question: If I build a dbl stud wall,how do I decouple the ceiling?
If I don't decouple the ceiling,is it a waste to do dbl stud walls? (I'm guessing yes)
Have any of you had any luck with Quietrock,or similar products?
Was thinking about Quietrock on a single wall.(No dbl stud)That way there would be no Building a ceiling.(Decoupling from outside shell)
Thanks again.
Never mind about quietrock.I read more posts here about it. Seems to be a major rip off. Green glue on the other hand,may be a good thing.
Here's a very ruff Floor plan.
The bigger room will be the control room (12'6"x17' x9'ceiling),the smaller room to be used for Gtr amps,and vocals.
No Drums in this studio!
As far as a BASIC (very) layout,is there any recomendations?
What I want this to achieve is, a good Gtr amp,and vocal tracking,and a good place to mix.
Thanks.