New Studio in sydney, is design correct?

OK, that's good -- if a structural engineer signed off on the thousands of pounds (please pardon our U.S. measurement system reference :roll:) of dead load you're adding to the existing structure, then at least we don't need to be worried about people dying in a catastrophic collapse. Yes, I'm serious -- it really can happen... which is why I brought it up. That being said, I think you're taking a big gamble with that floating floor design though. If you're prepared for the probability of your isolation outcome being worse than if you had not floated at all, then... More power to you. Had we been able to see your plan before you started building, I'm sure we'd have tried to talk you out of it and/or helped you come up with a plan that has a much higher probability of success. I wish I could provide some insights on how to make things better. Unfortunately, I don't know how possibly bad things are. There's not enough data to be constructive, and even if there were, things are moving so fast for you that I don't think there's any opportunity to improve, beyond perhaps a constrained dampening layer (such as Green Glue) under yet another layer of plywood in each room, which might help to control low end resonance, which I think will be your biggest challenge... :roll: I don't mean to be negative and discouraging, but we've put forth a great deal of effort over the past couple of years trying to squelch the myth that a floating floor/room that is not painstakingly engineered to just slightly compress its industry proven elastomers and to not actually amplify frequencies that are wished to be reduced by way of resonance of a relatively thin and lightweight wooden floor surface will somehow magically perform as we'd like. Rod discusses this rather frankly in his book... And I spent months when planning my project on the dreaded "to float or not to float" conundrum myself, and it's still rather painful for me to recall. I hope you don't think I'm beating you up just to be mean... This is a great thread and I'm sure it will be referenced by many who may have a desire to do something similar. That is one of the great things about this forum -- we learn so much from what others do really well, and in other cases, maybe not so. ;-) --Keith :mrgreen:

no problem at all keith i appreciate the feedback. the floating floor dilemna was a major issue for us but since the middle of the concrete slab dip in 60mm from either sides of the wall it was essential we constructed another flooring so it was at least straight. we also have a garage door underneath us that goes off every half hour. we build another studio a few months at the front space and that eliminated that prob. i suppose every room and space is different. We ended us doubliing up the 13mm giprock too. In the control room im thinking of using 48kg Semi rigid fibre glass on the back wall and covering with fabric/cloth. Shud i do this to the whole space ? Im also using the design of the bass traps in this forum and they will be build in each corner of the control room.

day 17 the plasters started today and the carpenters start the door jams J.

What are the diagonal corners with drywall on them for(DSC00983.JPG)? I thought you were going to make square corners with treatment in them. Now you can't :? Or is this just one of your "design" elements with no purpose? fitZ

no that pic is of the recording room. and i did angled walls in them. only the control room will have the treated bass trap corners, and thats why they have been kept square. the designer for the studio did the original plans and gave us a bum stear and came to the job office drunk too many times so we had to improv with the engineer at the lat moment. Ill post updated pics and plans j.

the designer for the studio did the original plans and gave us a bum stear and came to the job office drunk too many times

:roll: :lol: He must be the same one that works on HGTV. Man, some of that crap looks like someone drank a fifth of Gin during the design process. :P fitZ

You're talking about the HGTV guy, right fitZ?

You're talking about the HGTV guy, right fitZ?

You mean there is only ONE HGTV guy? In that case I'm not sure. I just think that some of these "design stars" couldn't design an escape from a paper bag. :P At least in my view. fitZ

Jamie, Were you able to get any local sources for cloth? Nice photos and quick work. :wink:

hey lee finally sourced a place in sydney that sells the cloth. its called 'duet' screen drapes and is fire approved, etc it is sold by macquire textile on 02 9569 4222 its perfect stuff and its the one that all the major studios have used j.

hey guys here are the latest pics the sanding happened yest and the electrician did his thing today. the carpenter is now doing the doors and window frame. aircon being finished tom and fibre glass/cloth and painting at weeks end. J.

Got to say I am impressed at the speed your build is going. Ol Lonesome ME all by myself takes DAYS to frame just one wall (while gigging, being a dad, taking out the garbage etc...) I'm jealous. Keep coming with pics. Marc

Thanks for the info Jamie - I have made so many calls and googlized this (cloth type and suppliers etc) for hours my ears and eyes have fallen off my head.... :cry: I will blue tack them back on and smile - thank you! 8) One supplier didn't even know what Muslin was!? :shock: So I tend to agree this is the stuff we need. Might be worth putting this info on the materials forum...

...and it takes me weeks after a break to muster up the energy to go back out there are start building again! :(

One thing; after my comments about NOT doing your corner diagonals solid, it still looks like that's exactly what happened - is there a reason I'm missing here? Just curious... Steve

Hmmm, I have been watching that closely too Steve....watching in amazement. :shock:

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Jamie Jones wrote:

no that pic is of the recording room. and i did angled walls in them. only the control room will have the treated bass trap corners, and thats why they have been kept square. the designer for the studio did the original plans and gave us a bum stear and came to the job office drunk too many times so we had to improv with the engineer at the lat moment. Ill post updated pics and plans j.

Soooo, just kick some holes in the bottom and top of those diagonal wallboards and stuff some insulation inside :twisted: (Then you can blame THAT on the drunks too :wink: )

do you not think its a good idea to have the angled walls in the recording booth? The bass traps are being made for the control room as we speak, ill get some pictures across. cheers j.

Hi There Getting to the fun part of it all. Painter starts in the vocal booth tom and the carpetenter starts on the bass traps tom in the control room. the window frame also came out a treat J.

sum more pics from today from the vocal booth.

sum more pics from today from the vocal booth.

the bass trap frames in the control room went into today we put them in all 4 corners. j.

today we started putting the batterns on the walls of the control room. these will be covered with rigid fibre glass and then sound treated cloth. j.

control room pictures- today we did the paint undercoat, filled in the bass traps in all 4 corners with some light insulation (before we put the rigid fibre glass, cloth and slats) we also covered the wall units with rigid fibre glass j.