About to loose my mind please help

1 st question. Ok I am in a real bind. I need to get my studio up ASAP and I would like to float the floor. We are going with the Double wall with the inside wall and floor floating. I would like to know if the Air compressor Isolation pads work to float a room? the 3/4 inch ones. They are basicially ground up tires stuck together. #2. Also All this stuff you guys are always talking about where do you get it. Acoustic caulk, Sheets of rubber, and Mineral fiber insultion. #3. How bad did I screw up on this. Is it fixiable later or sould I tear the whold thing down now. My room is going to be 20 long, 6 feet wide, and 9 feet high. inside. I have broken the room into 3 sections. first section is 4.5 x 6 x 9 this will be a soundlock/amp room. 2nd section is 5 x 6 x 9 I want this room to be my Iso booth for vocals. the 3rd section is going to be 8x6x9 and is going to be used for drums. I am going to float all 3 rooms seprate from eachother. Is this a good idea or not. You can see real pics if you go to myspace.com/thechausso Please help. Thank you.

Hi Nick, and welcome; first, I've deleted your cross-posts in other forums because it's difficult enough following ONE thread, much less 3 that each end up growing separate lives. I kept the one in Construction because you'll probably get most results here. Your questions - 1 - floating floors; have you read much on this? And why do you feel the need for floated rooms? Have you done any kind of testing in your space to see just how much isolation you actually NEED? Each level of isolation gets LOTS more expensive and time-consuming, which is why I ask. Air compressor mounts - might work, check out the first page of the Aaron's floated floor thread in the REFERENCE section of the Construction forum for ways of testing this - WITHOUT testing, you're just shooting craps (and the odds are against you) 2 - Check out the Building Products forum for some sources/ideas. 3 - 6 feet wide rooms??!? Maybe for the amp/vox booth, but drums??!? Gonna sound like CRAP, no matter WHAT you treat the room with - not to mention, it'll be tough to even cram a decent kit in that size room much less move around it enough to mic it, and FORGET a decent sound. You'd actually be better off with an electronic kit than that. I checked out your site, am wondering how you finished the wall next to the roll-up door (and whether it's working isolation-wise) - if you can put up a floor plan maybe we can figure out a better way for a decent drum room, unless you're actually LOOKING for that "crap" sound. And finally, I know the crunch of needing it up and running NOW, but rushing usually causes BIIIIG mistakes - been there... Steve

We have decided to scrap the whole Idea and start over. Iam only going to do one room. I need it to be an all around good room. Do you know of a good design on the fourm that I can go off of. We have unlimited space to put a booth the celings are like 20 feet, but We want to save as much room as we can for our live room when we build it. The roll up door has been delt with already. The reason I think I need to float the floor is because, the building is in a very loud area. Even with the new wall up you still get alot of outside noise. I have not checked it with an SPL meter yet. I will go buy one today and check it out tomarrow. What would be the right amout of SPL that a floating floor would be nessary.

Have you thought about dividing the room vertically? ie; put in a second floor?

I hope this will work. Thank you for your help.

We already have a 2nd floor on the back side of the building I would like to keep as much of the celing for the big live room when decide to build it.

Need a LOT more info on your space, and what's surrounding it - things like is your building free-standing, or is it part of a complex with several units sharing the same roof and dividing walls, same slab, etc? Also, is that space where you want the booth also the space you want to save most of for your later live room? IF you can, finish up that drawing to show the entire space and describe the construction - both the existing, and the way you built the wall by the roll-up - it's possible you may have NOT done the best thing there for isolation. Check out these threads for a quick crash course on what actually WORKS - http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4310 http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=598 http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=20003 http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2045 http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewt ... c&start=15 http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=839 All from the REFERENCE section, here http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2125 When describing what's there, use enough detail so I could go buy the materials and build it exactly that way; then I'll know what you really have, and why it may or may NOT work, and (maybe even) what to do about it... :wink: Steve

The building is part of a complex. There is 2 offices on either side of us. The slabs are connected and the wall dividing the stucture is a 2x4 wall with double gypsym 1/2 on each side. The roof is connected to all the complexes to. There is also other buildings behind the roll up door about 20 feet off our building and these guys are the loudest in the complex they work on cars. They are my main concern. The place I want to put the booth is in the space where I want to put my live room. I figured that the live room would still be big enough if I build a drum/ Vocal booth in that coner because I still have the rest of the space. I have all of that space for recording rooms. I dont really no what eles to do.

Hey, PLEASE :!: don't forget to resize pics to 700 pixels wide or less, it causes text to roll off readers screen. I resized your pic, attached below, please go back and delete the pic from your last post before a moderator does OR save the below pic and replace it for one in your last post. :D In addition to Steve's links to read, if you already haven't please don't forget to review this one: http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3231 For Mineral Wool or rigid Fiberglass: http://www.spi-co.com/servicecenterdirectory.cfm They have a location in Fort Myers. The Orlando location has been helpful on the phone with me. They do not always have all products in stock. Acoustic Calk can be had at many building supply stores or one online a source is: 29OZ USG ACOUSTICAL SOUND SEALANT Have fun absorbing the abundant supply of info contained within and linked from this forum. Marc A fellow Floridian (transplant) on the Space Coast. :mrgreen: