Help w/ studio design!

Hello guys, I'll be building my new studio in the next 30/45 days and I need some help. I'm thinking about 28x28x11.5 and the place needs to have: live and control rooms, bath room, lobby and a vocal booth. If I could fit a small room to serve as a video editing suite, that would be nice. I did this ugly scratch... but... nevermind... it's late and I'm tired... Any suggestions are welcome. By the way, any walls will be brick&cement walls... thanks!!

Hi jeronimo - check out this thread - it's the same shape as your area http://johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=166 cheers john

Ok John, that one is a little smaller. What kind of software do you use to draw those designs? Is it smartdraw? If you can send me the original smartdraw file... I can just push the dimensions a little to suit my needs :). By the way, those two rooms left side and top, are those supposed to track drums? What do you suggest?

Here's the file: http://johnlsayers.com/Stuff/plan.sdr cheers john

Thanks John! :D

Hey John, I've just shown the design to the architect and I guess we will be doing it just like that... I'll keep everybody posted about that!! I guess it'll be a nice construction to show here at the forum!

We'll make a page for it at the Studios Under Construction site if you wish :):) http://johnlsayers.com/Studio/index.htm cheers john

Hey John, I made some minor changes on the design you sent me... actually I re-made it, but w/ very small changes. What do you think?

cool - a couple of things - why not put in double sliding doors between the control room and the light brown room - just add another wall at 6 degrees to the existing doors. The new frame then becomes the second wall ...shit I'll draw it. :):) cheers john

I also did this one... but it doesn't have the vocal booth... that I need... John, do you mind just taking a quick look on those sliding doors that are avaliable here in Brazil http://www.tigre.com.br/htdocs/Consumidor/index.cfm?ID=1,1,5,30,22,545&includefile=common/produto.cfm. Those are PVC frames w/ double glass... I don't know how thick is the glass... but I guess it's quite thin... oh, and sorry but the site is in portuguese :)

Yes - that would work except I'd turn the control room around 180 degrees. I make the right wall fixed and angle the opposite wall by 12 degrees. You enter between the monitors like at Left Bank http://johnlsayers.com/Pages/Left_Bank.htm which leaves the back wall clear for trapping. As for your sliding doors I'm sorry I can't tell from the website - can't read portuguese either :):) Make sure you look for these features BTW - once again - how do you get gear into the studio?? cheers john

Ok John, I'm just changing the CR position on the 2nd draw, and makind a third one, 9m x 6m, following the directions on Left Bank (kinda of) :D I'll post them in a few...

Ok, here comes the flip in the CR... I think it's kinda small... I don't know... :) Comments and suggestions John? Please!!!

More like this - you save the space on the right side. cheers john

Man, I must say your brain works different from ours :) !!!!! That's a simple solution!! Thanks again! Now, I just thought about using some other dimensions... check this out. There is a nice lobby, bath room, nice CR w/ a vocal booth (notice the window that will show a nice view to the trees, and some neighbours :) ), a locker that can fit a guitar amp in and a nice drum room!!! Again, the gear has to go thru the CR to get into the live/drum room... And I'll use one of those split air conditioners to the CR and one to the live/drum room. I feel like this is the better idea I had till now... what do you think?

bump :)

Yeah - the looby works better I suppose but I don't like the vocal booth/amp locker at the rear of the control room. Much better at the front, glass doors at thje rear of the control room is not a good idea. Why not make the control room full length (best acoustically) and put the booth and locker in the studio area?? cheers john

What kind of problem I'll find using the glass door in the back? What if I use a regular wood door? Instead of sliding doors? I just want the drum/live room to be the biggest I can... but... if you find it better to have the CR bigger... I trust you :)

The reflective rear doors will play havoc with your speakers imaging. I'm a bit confused as to what is the size of your building?? it seems to be changing?? cheers john

:) I'm sorry John... I'll be able to build up to 6x9m... I have a new drawing but in the measures of 6x10... I'l make a new one with the new measures. :) Tell me what you think about this one ok?!

Ye4s - that's a better layout - why aren't you considering a soffit mount ina control room that size?? cheers john

Well, I never thought about sofit mounting John... what are the advantages & disadvateges? I re-made the design using 6x9 measures... It's smaller... but... it's all I can do now. I have one question... how should I treat the CR? And the live room?

Ohh my god... this will never end! :) What about this idea? Taken from your pictures at the SAE website

So - something like this?? - it's all to scale cheers john

Man, I find myself laughing everytime you post a project... that one is almos perfect to me... I would just take the booth next to the drums... and leave the other one in front of the CR.... Thanks John, you're really amazing!!!!!