I was thinking that so wondered if I could use the space to the right of the aircon as a cupboard for mics stands etc and then treat the door in a similar way to the other side/
Small garden studio & control room
Originally posted at johnlsayers.com, topic 15407.
A few of the pictures so far, its taking me a while as 90% of the work is being done myself
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Shed is up and waterproof
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Block work in the ground to get the extra ceiling height
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Possibly, but we'd need you to add dimensions to this drawing to say for sure. Can you add this? Also, can you indicate what is set in stone (already constructed) so that we know what can and can't be changed? I'd suggest you finalize your interior design ASAP before going any further with construction. Off the cuff, I'd say you might want to consider an arrangement more like the attached.I was thinking that so wondered if I could use the space to the right of the aircon as a cupboard for mics stands etc and then treat the door in a similar way to the other side/
Give me a minute or two i'l alter the drawing and show what is already built.
This is what is built so far, outside block work is nearly all up to wall plate height, shed is finished all bar roof tiles and exterior wood cladding
Also need the dimensions of the cutouts in the control room.
How finished is the interior control-room / recording room demising wall? Is this block as well? Would you consider changing the layout to something like I showed in green?
The wall splitting the control room and recording room is nearly up to full height so will be around 2.800m it is built out of 140mm thick concrete block / limestone,sandstone so will not be able to change it.
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i think the first drawing may be your best best as it makes the CR more symmetrical (the door next to the mix desk would not be fun) and leaves a decent size LR (plus in a pinch you might leverage the workshop behind the CR (say guitar amps or leslie unit when you are recording acoustic instruments in the LR...))
The gap in the wall next to the desk is not a door it will be the window between the 2 rooms it is in the picture above.i think the first drawing may be your best best as it makes the CR more symmetrical (the door next to the mix desk would not be fun) and leaves a decent size LR (plus in a pinch you might leverage the workshop behind the CR (say guitar amps or leslie unit when you are recording acoustic instruments in the LR...))
maybe i'm still not picturing this too well... is this the current plan?
Yeah that's pretty much what is there at the moment, apart from the dividing wall between the control and live room is not touching the outside wall at the top or the interior corridor wall near the entrance,
The dividing wall is going to be part of the interior live room walls, I am building now as the control room face needs to be rendered for extra strength and sound proofing before building the studs for the control room
ok, so assuming the mix desk is facing the window, you're going to have a door right next to it?
No it will be like the 4th post on page 2,like your original design but reversed so the window will be to the left of the desk, I'v added the position of the desk to your last plan, I hope you don't mind,
Live room wall built to full height with viewing window opening into control room.
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I'm wondering what sort of isolation I can expect from a heavy fire door if correctly sealed when shut?
Looking at my rough plan you can see that I will have an air lock between the control and live room this small corridor will have a upvc double glazed window and entrance door, any ideas what noise levels I can expect outside with a band playing in the live room, or should I start to plan for double doors on the control room and live room bear in mind that the floor levels in these 2 rooms will be around 900mm lower than the corridor, I am planning on having steps down into these rooms like these but only the required 4-5 steps
some more pictures
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Small stud work on top of middle wall isolated top & bottom from the block wall and the roof
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As mentioned in my first posts I have quite a few sheets of ply flooring but I have been reading in a lot of builds that concrete floor is best with maybe just some laminated flooring,
so wondered wether I could use the plywood sheets for my first layer on the walls etc, it is 18mm thick and 600mm x 1220mm with a 'tongue & groove' and then 1 sheet of 15mm plasterboard on top of this, how would this compare with 2 layers of 15mm plasterboard?
Yes, that's the general recommendation. Any type of hard floor is good, provided that the rest of the room is treated suitably.but I have been reading in a lot of builds that concrete floor is best with maybe just some laminated flooring,
That would work fine. Plywood is almost the same density as drywall, so isolation will be similar, plus and you'd have the advantage of much better structural strength in the wall (particularly in sheer), and also you'll have a nailing surface everywhere around the room, not just the studs. - Stuart -wondered wether I could use the plywood sheets for my first layer on the walls etc, it is 18mm thick and 600mm x 1220mm with a 'tongue & groove' and then 1 sheet of 15mm plasterboard on top of this, how would this compare with 2 layers of 15mm plasterboard?
ok that's great, many thanks for the reply
Not great pictures I know, but studs and ceiling joists for the entrance & shower room done, will block & morter the gable end and then dig out for the control room floor only 800mm deep to dig :D
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Control room gable end sealed off am having a clear up then starting the dig out for the control room floor
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Have been noticing on a lot of other builds that mod's are suggesting not to isolate the inner stud walls from the floor slab but to fix to the concrete floor I will be casting can some body give me a definite yes or no on this as I plan to concrete next weekend if things go well and then start getting the stud's up asap for electrical and HVAC 1st fixing after :?:could anyone answer the question in my previous post please?
Here's a picture of some progress of my dig out for the control room concrete slab, hopefully will be able to finish tomorrow and then concrete next weekend
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I would check what your local building code requires or allows! Personally, where I live there is no choice: Earthquakes! BIG ones... Walls and floors should not move around in different directions, so they MUST be bolted together here. But your case might be different, so check with your local municipality / building inspector before doing anything. - Stuart -Have been noticing on a lot of other builds that mod's are suggesting not to isolate the inner stud walls from the floor slab but to fix to the concrete floor I will be casting can some body give me a definite yes or no
"Have been noticing on a lot of other builds that mod's are suggesting not to isolate the inner stud walls from the floor slab"
Well, you have two mods here, and neither of us suggest this. Matter of fact, the plate HAS to be fastened to the floor to resist the walls ballooning from all the weight and bouncing around the room ...so, your assessment that what "mod's" here are suggesting is incorrect since we have 75 percent of the active ones right here, right now.