Finally ready to start......help appreciated?!

Hi All Been a long time reader of the forum, but have lost my log on due to an email account change Finally ready to start on the studio room, after alot of dreams about budgets and layouts, after 12 months of building they have been well and truly squashed as money is running out. The budget is low way lower than expected and to be honest im now going to be happy with a happy medium will be over the moon with any space in the new house to get back on with music. the room is classed as a bedroom so i dont want to go too drastic with double skin walls etc Im a beginner with sketch up and have put together the basic room size, im really looking to spend no more than 1000 gbp with regards to isolation from the rest of the house. My master bed is partially above the studio not a big deal but i want to dampen as much as possible room dimensions 3.5 mtrs wide 6.10 mtrs long the rest is detailed on the plan im a house/techno producer so really am only after a control desk with monitors, synth stands and then space for vinyl storage and turntable setup. where the concrete plinth protrudes into the room i can understand its a great option to build frames to house monitors, I currently use adam p11 any help would be very much appreciated thanks t

This is only a basic idea but this was the first thing that popped in my head when i read your post. Hope you find it helpful. Its only a picture at the moment but could be done in sketchup quite easy. :D

you could also use the space marked above as shelving to hold 19inch rack equipment, built into the wall. see the image below on the left hand side........just finished unlike mine :(

Hi Leon Thanks for the response. Im mostly itb aside from synths and a few rack pieces,at this moment in time I dont need a vocal booth. I was thinking of using that awkward space with the concrete plinth which by the way is a pad for a huge steel, to either house vinyl storage with a workstation in front of it, or box it out for flush mounted speakers. I may be totally wrong by aiming to have the speakers facing the room length. Open to all layout ideas, hope the forum fills up later with some suggestions i need somwhere in the room space for a dj set up two turntables, mixer and cdjs. t 8)

i'll have a play with your sketchup file as soon as i can and see if i can come up with something for you. You will need to update your profile to include your location. Many of the members on this forum wont respond untill this is done (out of respect of the posting rules). Do a search on the site for the recording manual (if not i believe it is on the john sayers site its self, at the bottom), there are a few designs as well as construction information, that you will find of interest. :D You mite find this build interesting. Maybe the sort of design your after, speakers either side of the pillar http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=15139

leon.payne wrote:

You will need to update your profile to include your location. Many of the members on this forum wont respond untill this is done (out of respect of the posting rules).

There is a lot more than that required to help posters. But the OP knows this because the OP wrote

Been a long time reader of the forum, but have lost my log on due to an email account change.

cheers for the advice. guess people say they have been lurkers for ages, flustrating when you actually have... :oops: I thought that i would add a little bit more information about the room itself The floor is a 70 celotex - 3-4 inches of oversite concrete -with a finish 65 screed, the room will then have 18mm oak flooring. The dividing single skin concrete wall has a guest bedroom beside. The right hand side of the room (window) side has a mono roof running the length of the room. One the ceiling has been plaster boarded there will be no variation in height etc. The floor joists, mono roof joists or the timber frame on the entrance of the room have not yet been insulated, as i wanted to establish the best methods slab(thickness) etc. Im conscious that the room isnt that wide to start with so am not sure about double lining walls etc, as on the flip side as my budget is very limited now 1000gbp as i said, i am almost looking at this as a start to a build which i will improve on within the next few years. T

and... just found my original thread!!!, wonder if there is a way i could get my original user name back viewtopic.php?t=11365 How things change, and sometime how long they take. Inbetween hundreds of build nightmares, both changing jobs were back on track. The budget is smaller and the project will take longer and the room is a tad smaller as I have had to add a plant room next to the entrance which has eaten a bit of space but hey ho, im looking forward to finally cracking on Thanks Tristan

Im looking to insulate between the joists above as soon as possible, I have a master bedroom above the studio so i would like to get the best option. Im also considering the double boarding option using 12.5 mm As explained the room length ways has the masterbedroom covering 3/4 above, there is then 1/4 of the ceiling which is mono extrension truss'ed. Any advice on slab insulation and methods, links etc would be much appreciated. Thanks T

Im keen to start with the ceiling, and have been reading thourghly through the forum for methods, i couldnt find a good link for ceilings within the use ful links thread. Im thinking along the lines of: 1. thick insulation between the joists, rolls of rock wool preferably to minimise costs 2. then fitting resiliant bars across the joists 3. then two layers of 15mm soundblock gypsum boarding. Any advise on this would be great, read alot about sealing the boards and am struggling getting my head aroung that thanks

if you have a nice slab overhead, then you probably have enough mass there. the big issue will be flanking and impacts. if you can build a new inner ceiling (perhaps with joists nested in between the existing ones) on isolated walls, you'll do much better than the RC. optionally, if you can enough space, using Kinetics, Mason, or other isolation mounts and hat/furring channel to suspend the new ceiling on, you'll get better performance than the RC. for the insulation in there, regular pink (or yellow) insulation will suffice. enough to dampen the space without packing and causing the new ceiling to become coupled...

gullfo wrote:

optionally, if you can enough space, using Kinetics, Mason, or other isolation mounts and hat/furring channel to suspend the new ceiling on, you'll get better performance than the RC. ...

any links to the named products and/or diagrams to explain this

http://www.kineticsnoise.com/arch/icw/index.aspx here's one

Thanks, on first glance that looks like its not going to be cheap, i have had a quote to resiliant bars and it comes to about 100gbp for the amount needed to do the ceiling. Are there huge differences obviously they dont have the spring to dampen.

there are "whisperclips" and other products like RISC clips etc which tend to be less expensive. do a search.