River Nile Build

Started by Rivernile on 6 June 2010. 157 replies, 2010–2018. In the Library under Build diaries. Key posts in this thread.

Originally posted at johnlsayers.com, topic 14452.

Glenn, so i did what you said about putting the sheetrock around the ply at the window and i also slaped some green glue on there also. :) But now i am reordering the glass and i want to know what type of glass should i get. I read that it should be laminated,but the price is a bit much more i was wondering what you think about regular plate/float glass. how much am i lossing by not going with laminated? Give me pros and cons so i can see if i just need to bite the bullet :horse:
laminated if nice but the float glass will work. laminated has some damping built in and it also is safer. you can make you own laminated glass by using self sticking clear plastic sandwiched but you run the risk of bubbles and sometimes some "fogginess".
gullfo wrote:
but the float glass will work. ".
Thats all i wanted to hear. Glenn thanks a milli again for the support. So float glass is the same as that plate glass? because the glass place keep refering to the glass as plate glass. Just double checking that its the regular glass that i am asking for :)
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As long as it's not tempered - plate float etc are readily comparable but go with the plate glass to simplify. Tempered if nicked or cracked slightly will shatter.
Cooooool. Thanks a lot man. So i am getting 1/2'' thick for studio side and 3/8'' thick for the live room side, is that good enough? And what about the window in the back of room looking outside? what thickness you think i should get?
ideally 1/2" and 5/8" would be better but since you indicated the maximum thickness available was 1/2" go with the 3/8" and see if that works. on the back window, 1/2" if possible.
Hey Glenn, I am getting a lot of sound comming thru the door and i ca hear a lot of sond when i put my ears on the live room glass. Do you think A) a peice of MDF on the door with green glue and the seals around it will take care of that? B) I did not backer rod and caulk between the door jamb as yet you think thats where i am getting a lot of leakage? I know i still have a few things to do before i start worrying about this but i just had to ask. More Work on windows
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i think you may need that heavier glass... plus you definitely need to seal up the door. adding more mass too it is generally a good idea if you only have the single door but gotta get the door sealed. as you improve isolation on walls etc the weak parts become much more apparent - the doors, windows, floor flanking...
Could someone please post a link for the right type of rubber to get for the door seal? There seam to be a lot of mis info out there and i want to be sure. I looked on JC Whitney's site and when i type in ''Type K '' RUBBER A COUPLE OF THINGS CAME UP . Please if someone could pass on some info .
Glenn to the rescue once again. Thanks a lot man,i could not have done this confidently without your help. Thanks
Hi Glenn Just curious,i have a 3' space between the cloud and the back in the control room. You had mention space couplers for the live room but what you think i should put in the control room. I am shure there is some reflection coming off there. What you think would work better Skyline diffusser or omnifusser or space coupler. Also is there a DIY out there for omnifusser? I am just doing these in the meantime till i get delivery of the trunk rubbers. Thanks
maybe just a few 2'x2'x4" absorbers on the ceiling spaced about 6-12" apart (assuming you're talking about the ceiling...) if it's the back wall, consider a narrow cloud hung down and angled a bit to cover that without killing it.
Well i have a huge cloud hanging over the console and it continued a little pass the mix position. I doesn;t have a hard back like i see you recomended to others i just figure i could get to that if it turns out i really need it. So i was thinking if i should go with some diffusers for the rest of the ceiling as opposed to more absortion. In a way i was looking for a little cool project to keep me busy till i get the trunk rubber :) The skyline and omnifusers would look coool,but i need it to have FUNCTION too. Whats your recomendation? The room sounds very good so far and the low end seems pretty even too,even though i did a Fuzzmeasure test with my Laptop and the curve looks weird in the low end. But i used the internal mic and speaker on the laptop. :mrgreen: I'll do a better measure with REW later. Thanks Glenn.
i'd probably go with a skyline diffuser then...
gullfo wrote:
i'd probably go with a skyline diffuser then...
So Glenn, what frequency range should i build these skyline for.\ The calculator that i have allows a range of freq to be plugeg in the it gives the lentgh of the pieces. I was thinking 5k to 15k what you think.
that sounds reasonable but maybe 3K up?
gullfo wrote:
that sounds reasonable but maybe 3K up?
3K up it is then? Hope i could keep it around 4-5 '' deep.
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very nice. on the pre-punch mic panels? i think there are quite a few companies selling them - parts express would be good - if you're looking for fully assembled though there aren't as many. ProCo etc. but RedCo is reputable. for some reason i failed to recognize you were in Atl... :cry: i was there back in late May and could have stopped in... next time... :wink:
gullfo wrote:
for some reason i failed to recognize you were in Atl... :cry: i was there back in late May and could have stopped in... next time... :wink:
Anytime. :yahoo:
Hello Guys, I need some help setting up REW. I am trying to use my portable rig with my laptop but i cant get it to cal the mic. I am using a Mbox2 with monitor out going to my speakers and i pluged a Rhode classic mic into mic input 1. Mic is set to omni. I do have a radio shack analog meter but i was not getting anything out the line out. The wirring diagram on their site seem to be more about home set up. Anyone wants to share how they set thiers up and got it to work. Anyway this is a curve i got with fuzz measure using the same set up. Glenn how does it look so far?? the mic is in the listening position. Thanks.
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sorry for the delay. day job. did you follow the loopback instructions? it's important to getting the PC hardware neutralized. if you cannot get the sound meter wired in, just use it for general level setting so you know the levels in REW are pretty close compared to what you're seeing in the meter. once you do that, find a place where you can host the mdat file and i'll take a look at it.