Hello and welcome,
the radio station I work for is moving it's facilities to new location. We came up with a layout which fits everybody's needs in terms of available space. Still there are a few issues which literally keep me up at night.
Main thoughts to keep in mind:
1) Being a Radio studio is our core business, the live studio is a cool treat. Not the other way around (that part has been made very clear to me :? )
2) Direct visual contact is important
3) Although the space itself is larger, the studio can not exceed the boundaries marked on the plan because of contractual agreements (boring stuff, really).
Let me present our current design first, then I'll comment on my concerns in a second post...
In case you hadn't guessed already:
_The light blue thingies are windows
_The white rectangle thingies in the walls represent doors
_The purple 3D thingies are pillars which keep the ceiling from dropping on top our heads
Radiostudio / Livestudio combo
Originally posted at johnlsayers.com, topic 10037.
This plan fits all our needs, but I'm bothered by two flaws in the design:
1) Lack of symmetry in the control room
2) the little window in the top right corner of the control room in combination with the speaker who'll need to stand in the same area
Sketchup file attached. Everything is in proportion. Any suggestions?
For the record: other designs we came up with, but which were rejected...
The first was rejected because it was one meter too wide (which didn't match the contractual agreement as stated earlier). A pitty, cause this was my favorite design.
_It matched all criteria which were set out at the beginning
_It had enough space for live and control room
_it had control room symmetry
_the doors were in the back, so they didn't interfere with the acoustic treatment in the front half of the studio control room
The second was rejected because the live studio was bigger then the radio studio. :evil:
Wouldn't the iso room be better off in a corner of the live room, to help maintain the symmetry of the CR?
By the way: Ghent is my favorite city in the world. One of the most beautiful places I've ever been to. And I'll be there again! I'd love to check out your studio when I'm there next (I'm sure it'll be done by then).
Cheers,
Eyvi
The only reason the iso booth is in the control room area and not the live room area is because the live room didn't have any square meters to spare, but the control room did. In other words: maintaining those few square meters mattered more in the live room then they did in the control room. :)
You're very welcome to come take a look should you be passing by our lovely little city. Just give me an email, and we'll make the arrangements.
sigertdejean @ telenet.be
(those spaces in between are to avoid bots searching the net for new email addresses to spam. For the millionth time, NO, I do not need a boob job!! :evil: )
in the CR with that post there - i'd plan on filling the space on either side to that depth with trapping and/or soffit and extending the window depth as needed.
I'm not sure I follow, Gullfo. :?
I reviewed the layout (again. My wife probably feels neglected by now...) and came up with the following layout. It does start to look a lot like the USS enterprise flight deck though... hmmm
_All criteria met (including the contractual bla bla)
_I skipped the iso booth. To hell with it.
_The two pointy spaces in the back of the control room could be hanger space (with loss of exact symmetry though) or extra air space between the inner and outer leaf.
ok... i was looking at the v2 file... this new one works for me...
Let's hope it works for the guys upstairs as well... 8)
Cheers,
Sigert
They liked it. I got the go ahead on the current layout.
Next question. Placement of acoustic treatment in the control room. I was thinking:
_hangers in the ceiling
_Lowered ceiling of plastic and cloth covered insulation
_Center window wall -> naked absorption
_First side walls -> Slat absorbers
_Second side walls (with the doors in em) -> Naked insulation (plastic and cloth covered)
_Rear walls forming the big V -> Naked insulation (plastic and cloth covered) and Bass traps at the top to ceiling corner.
_Large bass trap in the rear corner (that's what corners are for)
I don't think I'll be going for softfit monitors.
I'll get started on the ceiling design tomorrow...
Cheers,
Sigert
About ceiling concept and design: I understand the technique of hangers so far isn't supported by any test data. I'm not gonna pose the million dollar question "should I or should I not?", but what I do want to know is...
Can the use of hangers negatively affect small room acoustics? I mean... is there a way in which the use of the hanger system could make things worse?
Considering a layout for the ceiling hangers. Would this layout be preferable...?
Question moved to Acoustics Forum:
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Been fiddling around with the ceiling design and... I'm not going to angle the ceiling itself. Seeing as my control room has such an irregular shape I don't think I can manage actually building a angled ceiling in there without screwing it up.
I have an alternative idea in mind. Any ideas if it could work as a substitute for an angled ceiling?
_Clouds backed up with reflective wood panel, angled 12° to the back
_Cloud & lights above mixing position
Concern n°1 atm... do I need to keep an air space between the reflective wooden panel and the insulation?
version 2.1 :)
the angles work. and if you have space, you can make the front ones a bit steeper if needed.
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