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Hi John - in your control room window design on the SAE site, I didn't see any reference to treating the gap between the two sills. Should the gap be filled with caulking or left open and covered with 703?

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You fill the gap with soft fibreboard covered with a thin layer of insulation and then covered in cloth.

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Kevin - here's how you make the fiberboard panels. You can use this technique for making ceiling panels as well.

If you look at the treatment under the speakers in this picture you can see how you can make this treatment quite decorative by making panels at 45 degrees

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Thanks John.

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You fill the gap with soft fibreboard covered with a thin layer of insulation and then covered in cloth.
What do you consider to be soft fibre board? The only thing I can think of that fits this descrition is acoustic ceiling tiles. Is there another product?

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Simon - in aussieland you and I call it canite.:)

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Now that I've got the quote thing sussed out and edit previous post..
Simon - in aussieland you and I call it canite
Is this what is used for suspended ceilings? I've heard of canite but don't believe I've seen it. What is its typical application?

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What is its typical application?
notice boards. I'm sure Mitre 10 has it.

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John.......

Another question -- is there actually a preferred spec for the angle of both panes of glass? At SAE and in Jeff Cooper's book, they don't actually specify a preference.
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It depends on how wide the window jam is really. I'd go for as much as you can get within your jam, (sill) :)

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Post by Oliver Sheen »

Sorry to be an annoying Pom but what is soft fibreboard in the UK, anyone?

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Hey Oliver - no need to apologise for being a Pom - my grandparents on my father's side were a poms from Surrey and my mother a Geordie. :)
I'm not sure what you call it but it's the same as the stuff they make notice boards from and can stick drawing pins into, usually painted white on one side. Hope this helps.

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Post by Oliver Sheen »

A Geordie, Why, aye, man!! You're practically a Pom yourself :o What part of Surrey. I live in the next county, Kent.

thanks I think I know the stuff you mean.

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John Sayers wrote:It depends on how wide the window jam is really. I'd go for as much as you can get within your jam, (sill) :)

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According to the contractor, there is no need for any support from the window pane itsefl, as the frame above is solid, so in practical terms, does this mean I would want as far apart on the top jam and maybe only 1-2 inches apart on the bottom jam? (That's a fairly steep angle since the jam itself is more than a foot in width!)
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No, that's a bit extreme Bruce. :)

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