Two Walls, Two Panes of Glass, what about the GAP??

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Two Walls, Two Panes of Glass, what about the GAP??

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Ok so we'll have two walls one foot apart, making the side walls of the control room and live room. There will be a pane of laminated glass in each of these walls. So how do we cover up the gap between the walls without coupling them? I don't want people to be able to look down into a pit of darkness. Sorry if this is very newbie..

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Post by kendale »

Aloha Steve,

Welcome to the forum!

As a part of the forum guidelines, would you mind editing your profile to include your location, please? This is very important, because this is a worldwide resource, and as such, material costs and availability vary widely. For example, masonry is cheaper than gypsum in some parts of the globe, whereas it's the exact opposite in other regions. Thanks! :wink:

Here's a link from the REFERENCE area on windows:

http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewt ... c&start=15

Hope this helps.

Aloha 8)
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Post by JohnGardner »

Buy some soft fibreboard, (the stuff that has a white face you can put drawing pins into) cut it to the shape of the gap and wrap it in coloured cloth stapled at the back to stretch the fabric really tight.
Simply fit these into the holes between the cleats and the two frames. You may need glue on the top one to hold it up in the middle as the fibreboard on long spans will sag.
Heres my window done like this. I just finished it in the weekend. I have done the door gap like this as well and it looks fantastic.
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Post by len-morgan »

John,

When you say "fiberboard" are talking about posterboard? It has thick paper on both sides and something like a thin layer of styrofoam in between? Like kids would use in a school project for a poster?

thanks,

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Post by JohnGardner »

Hi Len,
No, I don't think so.
What I am talking about is actually a construction product. You get it from places like Home depot etc.
It's one of those things that seems to be called different things in different countries.
We call it "Flameguard" here in New Zealand, the Australians call it "Canite". I have no idea what it's called in the USA but I am sure you will have it.
It's the stuff notice boards in highschools are made from. It has what looks like a white paint finish on one side. It looks like MDF board except it's really soft, lite and brittle, you can easily break it with your hands or cut it with a stanley knife.

Here's the web address for the stuff we have here:

http://www.plycoselect.co.nz/product/so ... guard.aspx

I think this is why it's good for this application as it does not transfer sound from one wall to the other easily.

Thanks

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Post by len-morgan »

You're not talking about "cork" are you? The stuff wine bottles are stopped up with?

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Post by JohnGardner »

No, did you check out the link. That's the stuff I used.
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Post by len-morgan »

Yeah, I checked the link but it really didn't tell me anything. I'm in the US and as you said, I'm sure the product exists here if we can just figure out what it's called on this side of the pond.

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Post by kendale »

Aloha,

Is it like "hardiboard", "masonite", "canic" or "pegboard" material?
That's what the Lowe's down in Kona calls their offerings.

Hope this helps,

Aloha 8)
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Post by len-morgan »

Unless you Kiwis have massive hands, I don't know how you could put "push pins" in any masonite I've ever seen! :-)

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Post by knightfly »

Acoustic board, Homosote, Celotex, "sound board", are all names of basically the same thing. It's made of compressed, regurgitated paper. It's soft enough you can push your thumb into it, or break off a corner by hand.

Even so, I'd recommend only fastening it solid on ONE side of a double framed wall, and letting the other side "float"... Steve
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