John Sayers' Recording Studio Design Forum Archive

Kevin Young wrote:Hi,

what I perceive and judge that this room is quite small and difficult to accommodate so many musical equipments inside it...and so far you want perfect isolation and non-reverberation so that a good sound quality can be produced without disturbing the people in surrounding area...as same sort of problem I faced in past and I took help from [SPAM LINK DELETED BY MODERATOR] who made me satisfied and they have very talented and laborious staff who can do anything...however you can take assistance of some good planner or constructor who can sort out this problem completely....

And what I perceive is that you are nothing but a lousy spammer, who did not bother reading even one single word of this thread! Therefore you will be banned and blocked if you don't man up and prove your claims.
In reality, this room is one of the best isolated studios on the entire forum, which is already full of many, many well-isolated rooms, all of which are vastly superior to what might be expected of a third-rate urban-planning outfit with no background in studio design.
This room provides absolute isolation from the people in the surrounding areas (as you would know if you would have bothered to read the thread). Even those right outside cannot hear the bad at all.
If you really did have this same problem in the past, and if an "urban planning" organization really did "satisfy" you, then please do go ahead and document that studio build in your own thread. We will be happy to critique it for you...
Finally, Beeros actually did "take assistance of some good planner", meaning all of us here on the forum who gave him solid, sound, precise acoustical advice, which he then used to build this excellent place... as you would know if you bothered to read the thread! And we already did "sort out this problem completely" ... as you would know if you bothered to read the thread!

Now either provide the proof that substantiate your claims, or shut up. And either way, stop harassing people like Beeros who have done an outstanding job building their rooms, and stop hijacking the threads of other people with your inane "advice".

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I just read this thread in it's entirety & I gotta say I'm really glad I did! I have dyslexia & it took me 4 & a half hours to get through it all. I'm amazed at everyone who contributed to this thread. You all have an amazing amount of patience, especially taking into factor the culture barriers that exist.

I've learned a TON!

That was like reading a good book. Start to finish you all had me on the edge of my seat. Good verses evil, the heart break and then victory.
Nice job Beeros, congrats

I started a tutorial about insulation and construction BASED on my story

It is in Greek but it is subtitled in English

https://youtu.be/04rL3fjPcFc

I hope you enjoy it!

Very nice Spiros! Finally, a YouTube video about isolating a room, that is correct and truthful about the acoustics.

There's a couple of problems with the soundtrack on your video, though: at 5:33 there's a sudden surge in the background music that drowns out your voice, at 5:43 it sounds like have the sound from a porn movie(!), at 6:15 there's the sound of someone knocking loudly on a door, and at 6:24 and 6:44 there's a very loud motorbike that drowns your voice. In general, maybe you could turn down the backing music a bit, as it overwhelms your voice in most of the video, and is distracting: It's great music, but the level is a bit high for background.

I was thinking that you could add a few diagrams to illustrate what you are talking about with MSM and several of the other concepts, as well as some photos of your original (failed) construction, then also of the final one that worked. Maybe also pictures of the actual sound level readings from your meter, inside and outside, to show the real results. I know this is just part 1, and you will show that in the other parts, but it make make it more interesting to have some images in the introduction, so your viewers can get an idea of what you will be detailing in the rest of the series.

Thanks for listing the forum in the credits! Feel free to put a link in there to your thread as well: that might be very interesting for your viewers.

I'm looking forward to seeing the rest!

- Stuart -

Soundman2020 wrote:Very nice Spiros! Finally, a YouTube video about isolating a room, that is correct and truthful about the acoustics.

Thanx !!!

Soundman2020 wrote:There's a couple of problems with the soundtrack on your video, though: at 5:33 there's a sudden surge in the background music that drowns out your voice, at 5:43 it sounds like have the sound from a porn movie(!), at 6:15 there's the sound of someone knocking loudly on a door, and at 6:24 and 6:44 there's a very loud motorbike that drowns your voice. In general, maybe you could turn down the backing music a bit, as it overwhelms your voice in most of the video, and is distracting: It's great music, but the level is a bit high for background.

Stuart these are sound effects… I have synced some effects as noises examples. @5.33 it is an example of loud music (from our neighbour) @5.43 its sound effect, yes from porn and actually, it is the intro of one of my bands songs (red light mistress) as an example of airborne noise (again from our neighbour that has a female visitor). The hammer sound is the example of structural noise as well as the motorbike sound. I know it covers my voice but the subtitles are still there All these were made on purpose for a realistic as well as humoristic approach about noises.[/quote]

Soundman2020 wrote: I was thinking that you could add a few diagrams to illustrate what you are talking about with MSM and several of the other concepts, as well as some photos of your original (failed) construction, then also of the final one that worked. Maybe also pictures of the actual sound level readings from your meter, inside and outside, to show the real results. I know this is just part 1, and you will show that in the other parts, but it make make it more interesting to have some images in the introduction, so your viewers can get an idea of what you will be detailing in the rest of the series.

All these will be done on Part 2 and 3. Part 2 will be the wrong construction and Part 3 the right construction. Somewhere there I will fit the diagrams and pictures as well.

Soundman2020 wrote: Thanks for listing the forum in the credits! Feel free to put a link in there to your thread as well: that might be very interesting for your viewers.
I'm looking forward to seeing the rest!

It was the least I could do…I will put links as soon as possible. Generally I am very very busy so the next videos will take some time…not a lot but I want to be relaxed. The subtitles are also a pain in the ass...

Part II uploaded with English subtitles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lP5n3pkzEk

Hi All,

I just registered on the forum, and for some reason the first topic I found was this.
After reading through the whole thing all I can say is WOW!

Beeros05, it seems you had a rough ride to get where you are now with your room, but the result speaks for itself! Great stuff. Congrats!
And to see all the effort from the community to help reassured me that there is still hope out there in the galaxy...

I'm very happy to have found this thread (and forum), since I am just about to start building my DIY recording studio... but that's an other story (and an other topic - most probably)

All in all... Have fun in your room, all the best!

SmartGear

Great info here, congrats to the OP and a BIG thank you for all the guys helping out.

This reference worth a lot of money in specialised consultancy that is now available to every one.
Man, we have the internet and the the good people at the other end to prevent us to make stupid things based on "common sense" and sales pitches.


Ray

I can't believe that you guys are having a full on metal gig in your room! That's incredible! Congratulations on what you achieved, this is an amazing thread. Also the advice here is so unbelievably impressive.

Quick question about this thread (hopefully Stuart can swing in and answer):

If you’re REW testing a small live drum room as opposed to a control room, do you simply put one speaker in the drum kit position. If so, which direction do you point it in... and where do you put the mic?

It would be better to ask that in your own thread, probably... But the simple answer is: it depends what aspect you are trying to look at! For example, if you want a good idea of how the low end will perform in that room, then you would probably want the speaker on the floor in one corner of the room, and the mic up near the ceiling in the diagonally opposite corner of the room... If you wanted to judge how the drums will sound when tracking, then set up the speaker on the drum throne, and put the mic in locations where you would typically have mics while tracking. etc. It's a live room, so there is no one single "correct" location for the speaker and mic. Neither is there one single "correct" way of treating the room.

- Stuart -

Soundman2020, please feel free to delete this post. I just wanted to say that it's absolutely INCREDIBLE the length and depth you go to to help random strangers build quality studios. It really blows my mind. I learn so much and almost never have to post anything, because it's all been done before. Thank you!!!

civvie wrote:Soundman2020, ... I just wanted to say that it's absolutely INCREDIBLE the length and depth you go to to help random strangers build quality studios. It really blows my mind. I learn so much and almost never have to post anything, because it's all been done before. Thank you!!!

Thank you so much for the kind words! It's comments like yours that make the effort worthwhile.


- Stuart -

Soundman,

New Joiner - and yes location is on profile - Just echoing what civvie posted.

Found this thread mega-super-amazingly helpful and the time, effort and knowledge you and others - xSpace etal spent and shared is appreciated and used. Especially since I am concrete floor and stud walls right now!

-d(DrumRoom)/dT-


ps. Spiros - Συγχαρητήρια - πολύ καλά.