Drum Room Construction
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:49 am
I edit my first post here in order to be in accordance to the rules properly and also because anyone that reads this topic, must read it ALL OF IT! FROM THE START UNTIL THE END 'cause it is a BIG LESSON for everyone ESPECIALLY to the people that have NO IDEA of how insulation works and to the people that can easily trust a "referenced" "trustworthy" contractor who claims to know how to insulate a room.
Where am i located: In Athens / Greece, in a quiet neighborhood 7km from the center of Athens.
What do i want to do: A drum/jam room in order to practice, jam with a couple of friends (maybe) and record my drums (maybe)
What and where is the facility: It is a storage room in my basement. 16m2 total, i am going to use 12m2 for the "studio" and i will end up with 9,5m2 usable surface. [ 3.2(W)*3.2(H)*2.05(H) ]
How loud i am: I believe not more than 110db and not less than 90db.
Where i was with the project: Well that's a sad story...First i had a "naked" concrete room unsealed, no proper door just a drum riser to decouple my kit from the surface and some cockroaches (!) I could be heard until the first floor of the building and only at the side that was conceivably over the drum-room. On the ground floor, the floor conceivably over the drum-room was vibrating from impact noise on the first floor there was not such an issue.
I hired a referenced contractor that claimed that he can make my drum room and i would be able to play 24/7, not just drums but with my band.
What happened is that when the room finished (excluding doors etc) i did i sound-check including drums and electric bass. The floor on the ground floor apartment was still vibrating and on the first floor vibrations issue was caused because the contractor was proved to be completely unrelated to PROPER sound insulation constructions. He also claimed that when the doors would be installed the problem would not persist. Of course we did a check by sealing the door gap with multiple plies of gypsum-board and rock-wool and of course the problem persisted.
Where am i know with the project: The room has been dissembled and it is being rebuilt PROPERLY by using CERTIFIED anti vibrating materials of a Greek company named Vibro.
Who saved my ass: STUART (Soundman2020) & XSPACE!!!
Who else is saving the rest of my ass: Nikodemos from Sonic Ark Studios Thessaloniki/Greece and Antonis from Vibro
It is a very interesting story so read it CAREFULLY!!!
This is the storage room before i get rid of all the crap
And here it's after i got rid of everything
The size of the basement is about 16 square meters and the height is 2.40m, i will use the 12 of them for the floating room construction. At the end the playing area will be 9.8 m2 and the height will be 2m.
This is a cheap non permanent floating base i made until i gather some money for the project. I used it for more than 3 months.
2 layers of rock-wool 150kgm/m3 and 2 layers of gypsum-board
LETS BEGIN...
FLOOR
FRAMING
CLOSING WITH 2 LAYERS OF GYPSUMBOARD & THE INSULATION BEHIND THAT (ROCKWOOL OR MINERAL WOOL etc)
CEILING
VENILATION - AIR-CONDITIONING
FRAMING FOR THE SECOND WALL (SAME AS BEFORE)
LETS MAKE SOME HOLES ON THE FRAMING FOR THE ELECTRIC-JOB
FRAME SEALING
EXTERIOR SIDE
DOOR CASKET
DRUMKIT SPACE CALCULATIONS
CEILING 2nd LAYER
"BREAKING" THE CORNERS
FLOOR 2nd LAYER
VENTILATION REAR SIDE
Where am i located: In Athens / Greece, in a quiet neighborhood 7km from the center of Athens.
What do i want to do: A drum/jam room in order to practice, jam with a couple of friends (maybe) and record my drums (maybe)
What and where is the facility: It is a storage room in my basement. 16m2 total, i am going to use 12m2 for the "studio" and i will end up with 9,5m2 usable surface. [ 3.2(W)*3.2(H)*2.05(H) ]
How loud i am: I believe not more than 110db and not less than 90db.
Where i was with the project: Well that's a sad story...First i had a "naked" concrete room unsealed, no proper door just a drum riser to decouple my kit from the surface and some cockroaches (!) I could be heard until the first floor of the building and only at the side that was conceivably over the drum-room. On the ground floor, the floor conceivably over the drum-room was vibrating from impact noise on the first floor there was not such an issue.
I hired a referenced contractor that claimed that he can make my drum room and i would be able to play 24/7, not just drums but with my band.
What happened is that when the room finished (excluding doors etc) i did i sound-check including drums and electric bass. The floor on the ground floor apartment was still vibrating and on the first floor vibrations issue was caused because the contractor was proved to be completely unrelated to PROPER sound insulation constructions. He also claimed that when the doors would be installed the problem would not persist. Of course we did a check by sealing the door gap with multiple plies of gypsum-board and rock-wool and of course the problem persisted.
Where am i know with the project: The room has been dissembled and it is being rebuilt PROPERLY by using CERTIFIED anti vibrating materials of a Greek company named Vibro.
Who saved my ass: STUART (Soundman2020) & XSPACE!!!
Who else is saving the rest of my ass: Nikodemos from Sonic Ark Studios Thessaloniki/Greece and Antonis from Vibro
It is a very interesting story so read it CAREFULLY!!!
This is the storage room before i get rid of all the crap
And here it's after i got rid of everything
The size of the basement is about 16 square meters and the height is 2.40m, i will use the 12 of them for the floating room construction. At the end the playing area will be 9.8 m2 and the height will be 2m.
This is a cheap non permanent floating base i made until i gather some money for the project. I used it for more than 3 months.
2 layers of rock-wool 150kgm/m3 and 2 layers of gypsum-board
LETS BEGIN...
FLOOR
FRAMING
CLOSING WITH 2 LAYERS OF GYPSUMBOARD & THE INSULATION BEHIND THAT (ROCKWOOL OR MINERAL WOOL etc)
CEILING
VENILATION - AIR-CONDITIONING
FRAMING FOR THE SECOND WALL (SAME AS BEFORE)
LETS MAKE SOME HOLES ON THE FRAMING FOR THE ELECTRIC-JOB
FRAME SEALING
EXTERIOR SIDE
DOOR CASKET
DRUMKIT SPACE CALCULATIONS
CEILING 2nd LAYER
"BREAKING" THE CORNERS
FLOOR 2nd LAYER
VENTILATION REAR SIDE