My new mix room...treatment options?

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My new mix room...treatment options?

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Well, I think I've finally come to a point where I can begin to treat and prepare my new room. I don't have a desk yet. I plan on building one. I also don't have a recording computer or interface anymore. I sold my old ones with intentions to upgrade and that's next after I set a good plan for the treatment. My hope is to get my main areas of concern and then fine tune treatment when I can test it properly.

Attached is a Google SketchUp of my mix room. A couple of things of note...

- The small thing on the wall is the thermostat. That can't be moved or covered so I'll have to build any treatment around it.
- The door closest to the thermostat is a closet
- The second door is the door to the bathroom. I was thinking of building around it and making my treatment (wood slats if needed) on hinges to be able to get through it.
- I put a single simple light in the center of the room with the intent to build a cloud and put recessed lighting in the cloud

I welcome treatment suggestions or plans. I'm hoping to buy all my wood (for slats, treatment framing, etc) and OC703 soon. One particular point I'm wondering is if I should go with hanging bass traps in the corners or super chunks.

I've done quite a bit of research on the topic of building and some on actual treatment (I have Rod's book and have read it a few times). I've been out of the game a while (because I just moved into my new house that was built) so I'm needing some refreshing. Another point that I'd like some direction on is where and when it is appropriate to use wood slats, etc. I've looked at quite a few of John Sayers' Sketchup drawings and plenty of pictures.

I can take actual pictures of the room if necessary. I'm not really worried too much about sound proofing. I'll be tracking in the room across the way from the bathroom (it's a Jack & Jill bath). But I'm a hobby recorder and I don't really do it on a regular basis. My nearest neighbor is quite far away. Two of the walls of the room are outside walls, which are brick. The area of the house we sleep in is on the opposite end, but that doesn't really matter.

Hope I didn't miss anything! Would sure appreciate some help/direction to get me going. I'm itching to get in this room and start using it but I know I have a lot of work ahead of me first.

EDIT: I started to have my builder double up on drywall and do a staggered stud system for the room but I was already 30k deep on having to put in my own money on the house. I don't record often enough to worry that much about sound proofing. So...I elected not to do that. Just FYI.
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Thinking of just using this as a guide and running with it.

http://www.johnlsayers.com/HR/index1.htm
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Oh, and on that part where there's that cut in going to the door...a mini hallway I guess. I'm thinking of putting a rolling or hinged (to the back wall) bass trap or treatment thing there.

Something I didn't mention...as far as sound getting in, it stays pretty quiet where I live. I'm willing to deal with noise from the house because I can just tell them to keep it down. Our street is a private street and not many people drive by at all and if they do, they live close by. And it just so happens that if they live on the left side of me, they use the other entrance. The right side uses an opposite one. So I rarely have passers by at all.
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I'm going to draw up my treatment in the Sketchup and repost. Maybe that'll get me some replies. :D
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Alright, here's my drawing. Forgive my lack of SketchUp skills.

On the side treatment, I'm thinking of making those to where they're not fixed...so I can move them around if I need to. On that one bass trap, I'm thinking of doing the same thing. It'll be obvious which one I'm talking about once you see it.

I'm also open to other suggestions. I'm thinking of more bass trapping where the wall meets the ceiling on the back wall. That's why it's shorter. Thoughts?

Also, I know the front wall is "missing". I'm going to mount a 42" LCD there and treat it exactly like the back wall.

I'm also putting in a cloud about as far back as the angled side treatments go.

I would REALLY REALLY appreciate some thoughts, input, or something from this. I've toiled and toiled and worked hard on this drawing.
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Here's a pic, too.
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Well....bump?
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it looks like a decent plan. i'd suggest going deeper on the rear wall absorber and something on the front wall. what are you planning to do for the ceiling?
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gullfo wrote:it looks like a decent plan. i'd suggest going deeper on the rear wall absorber and something on the front wall. what are you planning to do for the ceiling?
Thanks for the reply. I thought about doing 8" on the rear wall but it seems like I'm killing my floor space. Then again, 8" isn't that much. And yes, there's something on the front wall. I just didn't have it in the drawing. Basically the exact same thing that's on the rear wall. I'm mounting a 42" LCD on an extending swing arm on the front wall so that's why I haven't drawn up the front wall, yet.

The ceiling, I'm planning a cloud with some recessed LED type lights.

Another concern of mine is the fact that I don't want to permanently block that door on the bottom left with that bass trap. I'll have to make it slide-able or something so I can move it out of the way when I'm not mixing. Another area of concern for me is how I'm going to build the resonators to fit around the trim and the window ledging without compromising their functionality and damaging my trim/window ledge.

I'm definitely open to some helpful hints or ideas there. I don't want to remove the trim. My other idea is to just make cuts to accommodate the trim and window ledging but that seems over-complicated. I'm not above scraping it a bit because I can always paint the trim again with some touch up if ever I decide to move. I just don't want to cut it or take chunks out of it.
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on the back (and front) wall you can angle the trap to increase depth up higher or put a super chunk up on top there. on the door access you could just put a series of 4" thick absorbers on the door and the entry cavity. or create the corner trap as a pseudo door and hinge it so it swings into the room toward the window side. sliding it is an option and preserves some of the floor space. think safety though and make sure if need be you can still quickly exit the room...

on the side wall treatments - maybe just leave the space there due to the trim? on the trim i'd just take off the sill otherwise if it is a complex trim, then just live with it. if need be, add some cloth covered pink insulation to shim in behind to dampen that small cavity. since those spots are behind you from a listening position you should be ok,
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