2 Bedroom Studio. Sound Isolation input needed

Spevinator · Post by **Spevinator** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:16 am

Am I accurately understanding your concerns here (or at least one of them)? How else can I better sound proof this wall besides adding mass? Would a layer of Green Glue between the old wall and the new sheetrock help out?

AVare · Post by **AVare** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:40 am

rod gervais wrote:
AVare wrote:There is no question that mineral type insulation IS required for best sound isolation.
Andre,

I don't differ from you often - but here I have to.

We are not disagreeing. I had just finished reading/replying to several posts from Europe and my mind was in that mode. When I wrote "mineral wool" I meant it in the continental sense of any mineral based insulation, including silicon AKA glass. Thanks for catching it so that people here do not get confused.

As clear as glass,
Andre

Post by **xSpace** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:21 am

Hey Spev, I located a doc. that may be of interest to you.

Controlling the Transmission of Airborne Sound through Floors
http://irc.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/pubs/ctus/25_e.html

It might be worth a few minutes to read the entire article. Never hurts to have a fresh perspective.

Spevinator · Post by **Spevinator** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:29 pm

Xspace-

Thank you very much for the article recommendation. For my budget I really can't afford all of the clips necessary to go the route the article recommends. On the other hand I don't need isolation perfection. It was interesting to read how applying the sheetrock directly to the joists makes the filling between the joists basically worthless. I am hoping to make a slight improvement by putting foam tape over the joists before screwing in the first layer of sheetrock.

After all the research I have decided to use some Quiet Solution glue in-between the layers of sheetrock.

Post by **xSpace** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:23 am

Like this?
http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewt ... t=basement

rod gervais · Post by **rod gervais** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:55 am

Spevinator wrote:

After all the research I have decided to use some Quiet Solution glue in-between the layers of sheetrock.

Spev,

funny choice seeing as you've done reasearch.

Green glue provides all of the test data backing up their product.........

when you check all of the independent lab test reports for Quiet Solutions there is not one single test performed for Quiet Glue..........

I wouldn't buy anything from a company that didn't post thier test results - and I assume they tested seeing the claims they made...........

Hmmmm..............

Rod

Post by **xSpace** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:07 am

Spevinator wrote:It was interesting to read how applying the sheetrock directly to the joists makes the filling between the joists basically worthless.

I didn't get that. It read "no significant increase." Big difference.

Spevinator · Post by **Spevinator** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:22 am

So far construction on the studio is going well. The control room is basically done. I just need to tape/mud, paint, and install some track lighting.

The performance room is the bigger task and so far I have 1 layer of sheet rock on each wall. In some cases I left the original 1/2" and will be adding another layer of 5/8" once I get my Quiet Glue. The outer walls (which border the house) now have 1 layer of 1/2" and one layer of 5/8". The ceiling also has 1 layer of 5/8". I'll be getting glue on Thursday at which point the second layer will go up on all surfaces. I think I'll have a total of 3 different wall combinations

5/8" / 5/8"
1/2" / 5/8"
1/2" / 5/8" / 5/8"

In each case Quiet glue will be added between the wall and the last layer of sheet rock.

I do have 1 outlet questions which I couldn't find an answer to using the search function. On the wall between the control room and the performance room there is 1 outlet (on the performance room side). I do not need this outlet as there are tons of other options on the other walls. What is the best way to remove the outlet (prior to putting up my next layer of rock)? Can I disassemble it and use some wire nuts or would I best served to simply remove the wiring altogether?

AVare · Post by **AVare** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:15 am

Why are you using Quiet Glue? Did you read Rod's post?

Andre

Spevinator · Post by **Spevinator** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:09 am

I did read Rod's post but it was after I had the glue ordered. I know there is a lot of controversy over the performance of these products and it looks like a lot of it is spurred on by the variety of data on the internet. I got a good deal on the Quiet Glue furthering the my attempt at getting the best value for the dollar.

Any input on the outlet?

AVare · Post by **AVare** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:27 am

Spevinator wrote:I did read Rod's post but it was after I had the glue ordered.... ...I got a good deal on the Quiet Glue furthering the my attempt at getting the best value for the dollar.

You ordered the product before getting any responses, yet claim to be attempting to get the best value for the dollar?

Andre

Spevinator · Post by **Spevinator** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:31 pm

I think this forum needs a seriousness meter for each new thread so people can keep their comments in the correct context. I am not building a professional studio. In fact my build budget has not even exceeded $500.

I would consider this forum a very good resource but that doesn't mean other forums or reviews are worthless. Call me a sucker but I think Quiet Glue is going to work and be appropriate for my studio. Despite the consensus among this board's moderators and uber posters, people have experienced good results with quiet glue and saved a few bucks over the green glue.

The isolation I already achieved with the first layer of 5/8" sheet rock is promising. I can have my guitar amp roaring and its quiet outside. I plan on posting pictures of the process and the finished product. At this point I am just looking for some help on what to do with the wall outlet I don't need.

Post by **xSpace** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:51 am

What is the best way to remove the outlet (prior to putting up my next layer of rock)? Can I disassemble it and use some wire nuts or would I best served to simply remove the wiring altogether?

If you are qualified to do these things, then I would remove it, if, as you say, it is no longer required. If you are not qualified, it is tricky to get with another person via message boards about these kinds of things.

rdelaye · Post by **rdelaye** » Tue May 06, 2008 11:01 pm

Hi, I'm building a home studio at home and i use the BOX in the BOX system.
It's really powerfull.

You can see photo (pictures) on my web site at :

http://www.myspace.com/bool

Excuse me for my english, i'm french

Rémy

Drumdrumdrumdrum · Post by **Drumdrumdrumdrum** » Thu May 08, 2008 11:49 pm

How many Karma's does it take to straighten your rod???

I'm amazed that the man himself "Rod G" goes to the effort of posting to this thread and his personal advice is ignored.

I don't think you realize what an honor it was for you to have Rod offer you advice? He very rarely posts.

If I had bought a product and a preeminent, World leader in a certain field suggested some other product you bet I would bin whatever I bought and do the suggested thing. Some people pay Rod $500 just for that piece of advice.

I hope it all works out the way you want.

Cheers