controlroom layout

rock · Post by **rock** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 6:08 pm

should i have my layout like this

or like this

If you want to take a look at a better pictur look in
"to rooms to put your teeth in"
there are also other qustions i have.
I would jump, two meters up in the air of happines, if you could help me.

with all my regards
rock

giles117 · Post by **giles117** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 1:58 am

It is better to have more depth in a room. So layout one for the arrangement is better.

Bryan Giles

However, if you are trying to also have a vocal boot, layout 2 would be a better way to go just rotate your control room 90 degrees clockwise and position the treatments as you have done in layout one.

giles117 · Post by **giles117** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 3:14 am

Now that I know what you are doing. Hmmmm.

Layout 1 is the better layout.

You have a booth so no vocal booth is needed, just treat the booth with the portable treatments (resonators and bass traps)

Bryan Giles

giles117 · Post by **giles117** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 3:30 am

Thanks.

But i also have drums guitar and bass in room two.
How can i tweak so that all instruments feel good?

Guitar no problem but the drums.

and how is it with standing waves frequences etc.
Thanks again.

Once the acoustics of the room are corrected (tuned) all your instrumentation will sound fine.

The issue is to neutralize the room so that it has no sonic imprint on what the mics are hearing (this may not be a technically correct statement, but I think you understand what I am saying)

Hence the various treatments, angled slat resonators and bass traps.

Bryan Giles

rock · Post by **rock** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 3:35 am

but do you know how to tune the rooms.
I am a newbie.
Ive read how to calculate standing waves and tr 60.
But I am a fraid that i make things worse.
I have alan parsons sound check cd.
Ive noticed that something is wrong. The highs are ringing and the sweeping tone form 1000khz and downward is not at equal volume.
Cant find the right words. Im from sweden.
Hope that you understand what I meen.

I need every help i can get.

Jocke K.

giles117 · Post by **giles117** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 3:52 am

That is what the treatments are for, by making the walls non parallel (using the angle resonators on opposing walls) you are in essence tuning the room.

By using the bass traps you are ... in essence tuning the room. Did you study the SAE site?

rock · Post by **rock** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 4:02 am

Yes i have read the sae site it`s good stuff.
But I thought that they were talking about control rooms only.
And there is always this thing about opposite walls.

In my two rooms there are two doors in every room (incase of fire).
So i cant relate to the plans i found.
The picture is under "two rooms to put your teeth in".
I can´t use basstraps in all four corners etc.

Are the acoustics same for a control room and recording room.

giles117 · Post by **giles117** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 4:08 am

The acoustical goal is very similar in both rooms.

The sonic imprint you are looking for in a live room may vary based on your goals.

You could go for a totally live room, a totally dead room or a variation of both.

in a control room you are after one goal. To, in essence, eliminate the acoustics of the room from the listening equation.

The types of treatements are the same, just the application varies based on the size of the room, etc...

In your case, if you place the slat treatments across one wall and then on the opposing wall do the wall bass trap units, you will get a good result. you will have a nice balance between live and dead.

If you want a completley live room place the slat treatments on opposing walls with the slats all point or angling in the same direction.

Hope that helps.

Bryan Giles

rock · Post by **rock** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 4:18 am

Yeah.
I was thinking of using the resonators that are drawed by john.
They are called"the corner absorber" the sidewall absorber" and "the rear
wall absorber"
are you talking about absorbers on the sae site.
I ve also read somewhere that i have to build the bass absorbers in
different frequencies. How do i know what frequence to start chasing.

I hop that I not asking to many questions.
for every answer there is three.

giles117 · Post by **giles117** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 5:01 am

Yeah I am talking about the treatments john has listed on the site.

The bass absorber he has designed does function as a broadband absorber as well.

Using these plans, you don;t have to get all caught up in chasing frequencies. They work.

Bryan Giles