Plans for Control 24 Desk

[BMAJA]

I have looked for a used Argosy 70/90 series Desk for a good price ($500-$600) forever now, I just want to build one. I cant justify spending more on a desk for it than I spent on the Control 24. Anyone care to help me out? Thank you in advance.

[Soundman2020]

Hi. Please read the forum rules for posting (click here). You seem to be missing a couple of things!

- Stuart -

[BMAJA]

I have looked for a used Argosy 70/90 series Desk for a good price ($500-$600) forever now, I just want to build one. I cant justify spending more on a desk for it than I spent on the Control 24. Anyone care to help me out? Thank you in advance.

Hi. Please read the forum rules for posting (click here). You seem to be missing a couple of things!

- Stuart -

I run a recording, mixingstudio in Downtown Portland, OR in AudioCinema which houses alot of bands, we have plenty of rehearsal spaces available for booking if you r in the area, i have a studio on the mainfloor I can be as loud as I want. One drawback of my studio that I rent is that it is small/intimate but has been acoustically treated well and equiped with a nice vocal booth. The room is hard to describe because no two wall are the same. I'll have to post pics.

https://www.instagram.com/p/_kOCfhLjsKg ... N57hMRuI0/
https://www.instagram.com/p/_9NZeYLjipt ... Q3wevOrk0/

[Soundman2020]

The room is hard to describe because no two wall are the same.

Then how can you mix accurately in there? Symmetry is critical for control rooms. If the room is not symmetrical, then your ears are hearing different acoustic signatures, your mixes will not be balanced, and they will not translate well.

Also, if you check the forum rules again, you'll find that we ask that all photos should be posted onto the forum itself, not linked. There are many, many threads here where people linked to places that no longer exist, so their threads are useless today.

- Stuart -

[BMAJA]

The room is hard to describe because no two wall are the same.

Then how can you mix accurately in there? Symmetry is critical for control rooms. If the room is not symmetrical, then your ears are hearing different acoustic signatures, your mixes will not be balanced, and they will not translate well.

Also, if you check the forum rules again, you'll find that we ask that all photos should be posted onto the forum itself, not linked. There are many, many threads here where people linked to places that no longer exist, so their threads are useless today.

- Stuart -

Says who? U have to understand the room first! It is symentric but a booth was built in the control room in a corner and the booth is not symetric cause a square box boothy sounds boxy, but im sures u know that. U havent seen it and u sure havent heard any of my work. It seems u r just here to bust my balls when I am obviously trying to follow the rules and get some help or a lead on bldg a freaking desk. Ive never had such a hard time getting help. I mix fine in here. Thx but how about help or bustin my balls bout the Desk??

[BMAJA]

The room is hard to describe because no two wall are the same.

Then how can you mix accurately in there? Symmetry is critical for control rooms. If the room is not symmetrical, then your ears are hearing different acoustic signatures, your mixes will not be balanced, and they will not translate well.

Also, if you check the forum rules again, you'll find that we ask that all photos should be posted onto the forum itself, not linked. There are many, many threads here where people linked to places that no longer exist, so their threads are useless today.

- Stuart -

[Soundman2020]

Bye!

[BMAJA]

Bye!

Sad a man can't find help

[Soundman2020]

I tried to help, by pointing out something that is wrong with your room, and could be fixed. From the photos, there are several other things wrong that could also be fixed. But apparently you don't really want any help.

Most people who come here are really glad when one of the experts on the forum shows them the acoustic problems in their room, and ask how to fix it, then come back to say what a big difference it made when they followed the advice given to them for free by experienced studio designers, who normally charge goof money for giving the same advice to paying customers. Most forum members really appreciate any chance they get to improve their studios, especially when the advice is for free, and comes from somebody who knows what they are talking about and designs studios for a living. I am really happy to help out people like that, who are thankful and grateful for free expert advice. But I'm not so inclined to help people who respond with "Says who?", then a long diatribe about why the room is so great, when clearly it is not.

There's no point in designing a desk for that room, until the problems with layout, geometry, acoustic response, and treatment are fixed. Especially when it is for someone who insists that everything is fine with that room, when the photos show otherwise.

I'd challenge you to run an acoustic test in there, which I would happily analyze for you, for free, but I doubt that you would be interested in doing that since you are already convinced that the room is perfect, and I doubt that you'd bother to implement anything I suggested for fixing it.

U have to understand the room first!

The photos provide all the understanding that I need to know that the room is far from perfect, and could be much better.

Says who?

Says the voice of experience, based on designing many, many studios over the years...


- Stuart -

[BMAJA]

I tried to help, by pointing out something that is wrong with your room, and could be fixed. From the photos, there are several other things wrong that could also be fixed. But apparently you don't really want any help.

Most people who come here are really glad when one of the experts on the forum shows them the acoustic problems in their room, and ask how to fix it, then come back to say what a big difference it made when they followed the advice given to them for free by experienced studio designers, who normally charge goof money for giving the same advice to paying customers. Most forum members really appreciate any chance they get to improve their studios, especially when the advice is for free, and comes from somebody who knows what they are talking about and designs studios for a living. I am really happy to help out people like that, who are thankful and grateful for free expert advice. But I'm not so inclined to help people who respond with "Says who?", then a long diatribe about why the room is so great, when clearly it is not.

There's no point in designing a desk for that room, until the problems with layout, geometry, acoustic response, and treatment are fixed. Especially when it is for someone who insists that everything is fine with that room, when the photos show otherwise.

I'd challenge you to run an acoustic test in there, which I would happily analyze for you, for free, but I doubt that you would be interested in doing that since you are already convinced that the room is perfect, and I doubt that you'd bother to implement anything I suggested for fixing it.

U have to understand the room first!

The photos provide all the understanding that I need to know that the room is far from perfect, and could be much better.

Says who?

Says the voice of experience, based on designing many, many studios over the years...


- Stuart -

Technically speaking not perfect but I get great results and I can't afford
To change anything tha is booked 20 hrs a day and it irks for me music sounds great I will get a perfect room when I move studios for now I just wanted help building a desk that's my frustration nobody has said one thing about the desk I want to build