Bass trapping around the speakers area? [mix at low volume]

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Bass trapping around the speakers area? [mix at low volume]

Post by manderc »

Hello y'all.

I 'mix' in a non treated room. Each speakers (6" woof) is about 1,3 meter far from the front corners. Speakers are right close to the frontal wall.

Now, let's taltk about bass trap (not rfz). I would like to get limp absorber.

The point is: in an ideal situation I would treat all the corners, but, since I use my speakers only to check at a very - v e r y - low volume every now and then, I have the impression that If I put bass absorbers stuff on the corners, they will not absorb basses in the listening position as well; since they are relatively far from speakers - considering the low volume of those-.

The question is: should I concentrate the bass treatment close to the speakers/listening position area, instead of corners?
I have the impression that If I put the stuff on corners, my listening point still have the same amount of bass 'resonance', because I mix at a very low volume.
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Post by Soundman2020 »

It would help if you could provide a diagram of the room, and some photos, showing the positions of the speakers and the listening position.

But the answer to your basic question is that bass trapping mist always go in the room corners, since that's where the room modes and SBIR reflection points are! Putting bass traps away from the walls and close to the speakers will not do much for the bass problems. They won't have much effect, since that's not where the bass problems are happening.

It doesn't matter how loud or soft the levels are in the room: the bass issues will always be in the same place.
I have the impression that If I put bass absorbers stuff on the corners, they will not absorb basses in the listening position,
No type of bass trap absorbs bass in the listening position! All bass traps absorb bass where it matters: at the point where modes terminate (corners) and the point where SBIR happens (wall surfaces). If you don't put the bass traps there, then you won't trap the bass!

That would be like setting a mouse trap at some place where the mouse never goes... you'll never catch him like that! If you want to catch the mouse, then you have to put the trap at the place where the mouse goes most often. If you want to trap bass, then you have to put the bass trap where it can trap bass most effectively.

The reason why trapping bass in the CORNERS makes the MIX POSITION sound better, is because the mix position is at the "other end" of the bass wave. Whatever you do to the "end" of the wave that is in the corner, will also affect the rest of the wave, including the part that happens to be at the mix position. If you trap the mouse in his nest, that will also mean that he can't eat the food on your table any more, even though you didn't trap him on your table.... :)


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Re: Bass trapping around the speakers area? [mix at low volu

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if you are building a new studio then you must be installing soundproofing foam
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