Basement recording studio in Columbus Ohio Build Diary

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I was thinking a room inside a room but that would knock off 4 inches of height from the ceiling and also 5/8 inch (drywall). So Im looking at loosing 5 inches which would make my ceiling 6foot 6 inches tall.....
Not necessarily! :)

If you build your ceiling "inside out", then you don't lose that height. "Inside out" means that the drywall goes on TOP of the new joists, instead of underneath, so you gain the entire depth of the joists as usable space inside the room. You then use that for your acoustic treatment, which you would need to do anyway, regardless of how you hang the ceiling, so the final height of the bottom surface of your acoustic treatment will still be at the exact same height as it would have been if you used clips and hat channel.

With this "inside-out" method, the drywall can be just an inch or so under the existing floor joists above you, which is roughly where it would be if you used RC, and in fact is HIGHER than it would have been if you used clips+hat channel... :)
Do I need any other clips? I found these ib-3 clips to stableize the walls to the joists above. Do I need these? If so how many?
If you do not put ceiling joists on top of the walls, then yes you probably will need something like that, or sway braces. But if you build the walls right (good sheer strength)and put your new ceiling on top, then you don't need them.
And then I found these ib-4 clips to decouple my walls to the concrete slabe and to connect the walls together.... do I even need these?
Nope. Forget those.

If you do a search on the forum for "inside out ceiling", you'll find numerous references, so you can see how it is done.

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You Rock Stuart :shot:
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I started framing the vocal booth the other night. I'm going with the room inside a room design and building the ceiling on top of the framing. We had to drop the ceiling down lower under the furnace air return vent to get the design to work. I purchased a solid wood door that is easly cut down and plan to frame the ceiling and door wall this coming friday. I will be installing 2 layers of 5/8 drywall and will also be installing the window and air in and out soffits.

A few questions.
1.) Do I need to use Green Glue between the drywall?
2.) Do I need to worry about insulation since its a room inside a room build?
3.) Since I'm using screws to secure the structure should I still mdf the corners of the structure to help with ceiling load?
4.) Anything else I should consider at this point in building?
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That framing is not touching the existing joists, is it? :shock: From the photos it looks like it might be...


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That's just because of the angle, I promise it is for sure not touching the existing joists.
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Whew! You had me worried for a second... :)

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We did more framing the other night and finished the ceiling and framed in the door wall.
Here's some pics:
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Is there anything I can do to beef up the structure? It does move quite a bit which I think will be resolved once we drywall.

This thursday we plan to stud the door wall and frame the door in. I got a solid wood door. Very heavy!
I have an electrician coming next wednesday to help me with wiring.

Any advice on soundproofing electrical boxes?

And where is Glenn? Haven't seen him in a while!!
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Is there anything I can do to beef up the structure? It does move quite a bit
Are you doing one layer or two? I'd suggest using plywood or OSB as your first layer, then drywall as the second: That will really firm things up well. Or if you are doing just one layer, then make it all plywood.
This thursday we plan to stud the door wall and frame the door in. I got a solid wood door. Very heavy!
Great! The heavier the better. Don't forget you need heavy-duty hinges and long screws, to hold all that weight. And you could also beef up your rough framing with an extra 2x4 where the hinges are, for the same reason: you don't want your framing bending as the door opens and puts more weight on it...
Any advice on soundproofing electrical boxes?
Are you doing surface-mount electrical, inside the booth? You can't have any penetrations of the drywall for electrical boxes...


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Stuart,

Wow, sorry... for some reason I didn't see that you replied. My bad!
Are you doing one layer or two? I'd suggest using plywood or OSB as your first layer, then drywall as the second: That will really firm things up well. Or if you are doing just one layer, then make it all plywood.

I was planning to do 2 layers of dry wall, is OSB expensive? I am trying to go the cheepest route :). And are you taling inside layers or outside layers. The inside of the booth is 2 layers and the outside is 1 layer.
Great! The heavier the better. Don't forget you need heavy-duty hinges and long screws, to hold all that weight. And you could also beef up your rough framing with an extra 2x4 where the hinges are, for the same reason: you don't want your framing bending as the door opens and puts more weight on it...
Great Idea! I was thinking about triple studding the corners of the vocal booth to add more structure strength.
Are you doing surface-mount electrical, inside the booth? You can't have any penetrations of the drywall for electrical boxes...
I was thinking putty pads similar to http://www.amazon.com/Sound-Fire-Rated- ... B002W81N36. Would that not work?
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Stuart,

Wow, sorry... for some reason I didn't see that you replied. My bad!


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Are you doing one layer or two? I'd suggest using plywood or OSB as your first layer, then drywall as the second: That will really firm things up well. Or if you are doing just one layer, then make it all plywood.


I was planning to do 2 layers of dry wall, is OSB expensive? I am trying to go the cheepest route . And are you taling inside layers or outside layers. The inside of the booth is 2 layers and the outside is 1 layer.


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Great! The heavier the better. Don't forget you need heavy-duty hinges and long screws, to hold all that weight. And you could also beef up your rough framing with an extra 2x4 where the hinges are, for the same reason: you don't want your framing bending as the door opens and puts more weight on it...


Great Idea! I was thinking about triple studding the corners of the vocal booth to add more structure strength.


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Are you doing surface-mount electrical, inside the booth? You can't have any penetrations of the drywall for electrical boxes...


I was thinking putty pads similar to http://www.amazon.com/Sound-Fire-Rated- ... B002W81N36. Would that not work?
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I was planning to do 2 layers of dry wall, is OSB expensive? I am trying to go the cheepest route
Probably a bit more than drywall, but not a huge amount. Check prices in your local Home Depot (or equivalent).
I was thinking putty pads similar to ... Would that not work?
You can do that if you want, but it's a lot of extra work to cut all those holes, beef up with putty pads, seal carefully, etc. Doing one single penetration then surface mount everything inside is much easier. And faster.

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long time no see! This studio was designed by our forum member Glenn “gullfo” about 5 or 6 years ago. For many reasons it was postponed. In April I decided to pick back up where I left off and as you can see we have made great strides. All of these updates are posted to our Instagram page @arcadiaaudiohq. Glenn has been amazing with holding my hand through this. Thanks John Sayers community, without this site I would have never made my dream a reality. More updates to come.
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