Here is a song I did recently in my studio. Can you tell at all by listening what some of my room problems might be?
To me, the bass is not distinct, the high end is brittle and the mids are lacking. The drums, bass and keys are midi and the guitar is direct.
http://www.martyaltenberger.com/ldr/Lon ... Runner.mp3
Thoughts?
Can you tell my listening to my mix???
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Stratcat
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That's pretty tough to do, Stratcat. Even if someone were very familiar with your speakers and knew exactly how you had them set up, second guessing how to fix the room sound by how a mix sounds is a tall order.
If your bass is in-distict, but it sounds right when played in your room, that's a sign that your room needs bass trapping. You mention that the highs are brittle and it needs more mid-range (or clearer mid-range) which says to me that your room is absorbing the highs (not likely unless there's a lot of furniture we didn't see in the photos before- bare walls tend to let the highs ring out a lot), or you're getting some comb-filtering problems (your speakers tricking you into thinking that there's some high freq areas in the spectrum that need more boosting than they actually do), or you just have to use an EQ between your computer and your speakers to boost the highs (if your speakers don't have enough highs, you'll artificially add them). Having trouble in the mid-range often comes from the same things causing troubles for the highs.
Perhaps some of this can be fixed by EQing the speakers... but it'll only go so far.
Kase
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If your bass is in-distict, but it sounds right when played in your room, that's a sign that your room needs bass trapping. You mention that the highs are brittle and it needs more mid-range (or clearer mid-range) which says to me that your room is absorbing the highs (not likely unless there's a lot of furniture we didn't see in the photos before- bare walls tend to let the highs ring out a lot), or you're getting some comb-filtering problems (your speakers tricking you into thinking that there's some high freq areas in the spectrum that need more boosting than they actually do), or you just have to use an EQ between your computer and your speakers to boost the highs (if your speakers don't have enough highs, you'll artificially add them). Having trouble in the mid-range often comes from the same things causing troubles for the highs.
Perhaps some of this can be fixed by EQing the speakers... but it'll only go so far.
Kase
www.minemusic.net
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lowdbrent
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Dang man. When I heard the song playing at low volume on the Mac speaker, I could have sworn it was Eddie DeGarmo singing that. Just to make sure that it wasn't a prank, I played the MP3 of DeGarmo & Key's first version (which yours is a copy of) and nope it wasn't.
I would say that you captured the essence of the original. The only thing missing is a thinned out bass with chorus, like the original, and perhaps Eddie's growling. Also, it doesn't have the high hat up in the mix like the original.
Brought back memories.
I would say that you captured the essence of the original. The only thing missing is a thinned out bass with chorus, like the original, and perhaps Eddie's growling. Also, it doesn't have the high hat up in the mix like the original.
Brought back memories.
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Wow - thanks. I love old D&K. Thats a heck of a compliment.
I'm really shocked that someone on this site has heard of D&K, let alone that song!!! And intimately knew the original version!!!! All I knew for a long time was the live version. I actually like the sound of the studio recording except for the things you point out!
I'm really shocked that someone on this site has heard of D&K, let alone that song!!! And intimately knew the original version!!!! All I knew for a long time was the live version. I actually like the sound of the studio recording except for the things you point out!
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I was at the recording of the live album here in Tulsa, OK. I wish that I staill had a copy on CD. They had lots of good shows here with Servant, Petra, etc. Those were good times.
I think that Third Day's singer sounds a bit like Dana Key. I messed that up on the last post. Dana Key sang, Ed DeGarmo played keys.
I think that Third Day's singer sounds a bit like Dana Key. I messed that up on the last post. Dana Key sang, Ed DeGarmo played keys.
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Hmmm, you must be old like me!
Yeah, Dana Key had the cool voice and was no slouch on guitar. I didnt care for their later music, but their earlier stuff was great 70's aor rock. I never did get to see D&K live, but saw Servant, Petra and lots of others from that era.
By the way, I have some of that older music on cd. I dont have that entire 2-album set on cd, but have a number of live cuts from it. Email me at home and I might be able to help you.
marty@edwardsville.com
Yeah, Dana Key had the cool voice and was no slouch on guitar. I didnt care for their later music, but their earlier stuff was great 70's aor rock. I never did get to see D&K live, but saw Servant, Petra and lots of others from that era.
By the way, I have some of that older music on cd. I dont have that entire 2-album set on cd, but have a number of live cuts from it. Email me at home and I might be able to help you.
marty@edwardsville.com