i am currently trying to decide on a wall/ceiling assembly. basically, is there a substantial benifit from using green glue and a channel or is the green glue enough? my head is beginning to spin. i have rods book, but i am hoping someone with a basement studio may be out there with a solution. the ceiling is going to be my big problem. is green glue the wonder that it is sold to be. for that matter is there a chart with a variety of wall/ceiling assemblies and thier STC? as for everyone else i am trying to balance cost, labor and effectivness.
geen glue or rc1/2 or both?
Originally posted at johnlsayers.com, topic 9583.
http://www.saecollege.de/reference_material/index.html
They have a pretty good STC chart look in the index.
wow. thats a chart! big thanks. any wisdom on green glue? one or the other or both?
Clicking the link above ( I believe John Sayers developed that reference material) then construction, then the walls and ceilings tab and scrolling all the way to the bottom. Have you considered doing or have you applied dense material in this manner?
That alone will make a large difference in who is telling who to turn down what in your home:)
Something I noticed, the very picture I referenced shows three layers of material on the living side of the ceiling joist. The STC chart reads that only one point is gained by using three layers of material vs. two. And that only if you have a tile floor already installed on the top side of your ceiling.
Just a thought,
the goal is to be able to record the loud stuff and have a band practice and not wake my 2 year old son up on the second floor. i have added a couple of drawings. this would be the space after demo. i did get rods book. really good stuff. its just a east coast basement studio is its own beast. low ceiling and all.
don't me to redundant but i am getting confused. i have a basement space. 3 wall are block the 4th sperates the basement and buts up to the stairs. currently the walls are studs and paneling applied. i figure i have 2 options for the walls after removing the beautiful paneling.
1) insulate, RC 1, 2 layers sheetrock w/ green glue.
2) insulate the block, stud new wall w/ space, insulate, 2 layers sheetrock, green glue.
option 2 is pricey, labor intensive and will cut at least 12" off the width in an already tight space. if there is a big gain in reduction, well, it must be done. the ceiling will have to be - wrap the hvac, insulate, RC 2, 2 layers of sheetrock, green glue. question is. what goes up first. wall or ceiling? and do you attach the new stud wall to the floor joists? that sounds like a re-couple of the wall to the floor??? if you do the ceiling first, then the wall, then the wall touches a decoupled ceiling.
wow, my head is starting to swim.... hope someone can square me away on this.
Get focused on what it is you are doing and let go of the worry.
Slow down long enough to read the book you purchased.
Then do your ceiling. That is where you need to focus because it is a whole lot more then rc sheetrock and green glue.
Your ceiling is, in effect, a wall, it's just horizontal. Try to look at it that way.
Anything that you do, if done properly, will be an improvement in isolation.
As you do it you will hear the difference, this is your proof. Right now you seem to be all over the map with concern for this or worry about that.
Get the talent here some real pictures, they love that shit:) That's what they do!