Green Glue..For What Its Worth,,,,

Just other lessons learned as I go..... I just applied the Green Glue between the 1st and 2nd layer of Drywall day before yesterday. The tubes I had, came with attachable plastic applicator tips. Well, dumb me decided to just cut open the tubes, not screw on the tips, but instead just gun the stuff out right from the tube on to the drywall (drywallers were looking impatient like I was holding them up). Anyway,,,the stuff comes out quick like a big pile of duck poop splattering onto the board. :shock: :shock: :lol: The I had to then take a scrap piece of drywall and spread it all around. Needless to say, it ended up on me as well as the board. This operation lasted for the first 3 12X4 pieces I hung. Then I pulled a tube out of another box and that already had the tips on the tubes,,,and what a difference in the application. Much nicer and much cleaner and actually faster. It actually looked the the application pictures on the Green Glue web site when done. :roll: Lesson learned,,,USE THE APPLICATOR TIPS!! :roll: :lol: But I did also find out that its just as quick and easy to apply Green Glue from the tubes without a caulking gun and by just using a 1" x 1" piece of wood and pushing it out of the tubes (still using the applicator tips). Still applies fast, smooth and easy (the drywallers took my gun with them, so I didnt have one to finish with yesterday) :roll: So with that said,,,if you dont have a large caulking gun, you dont need to spend the money to buy one just to apply the green glue. Ok,,,well that was my Green Glue lessons learned. Thought I would share. Stay safe AJ

Skin-so-soft is your friend...get some. It'll even remove gg from carpet.

Thanks for the lessons learned :)

Thanks, I just ordered 10 cases for my project. Did it really take 3 tubes/4x8 sheetrock? Clifford.

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Thanks, I just ordered 10 cases for my project. Did it really take 3 tubes/4x8 sheetrock? Clifford.

Yeah, I have been using 2-3 tubes per sheet, and it really does take that much! Ouch! $$$$$ Hopefully, it is worth it.

I only used 2 tubes per every 4X12 sheet. Dumpin it on, then spreading it out didnt look like it was enough coverage, but after using the applicator tips, it looked as covered as the pictures on the GG site. Just a guess that if you used 2 tubes for every 4X8 sheet, you'll be fine. Then if I read correctly it takes while (maybe a month) for it to "cure" or take effect. Eitherway I had my son beat a broomstick on a metal chair as hard as he could inside while I walked outside (I know, another "caveman test") but outside I could not hear him at all. So,,,thats a good start I guess. :wink: Now I have to tape and finish the walls and ceiling (start that today) install the doors and windows etc (they werent even in yet when I did the laymens way of sound testing) :lol: . Oh,,,and I also had him punch the wall hard 10 times to see if that was heard outside (like a kick drum), I DID hear that, but it was VERY quiet and VERY far away sounding. For what thats worth it this stage of the game. Again, that was punching directly on the wall inside. <--- Ya gotta love my technical ways of testing huh?? ...lol :lol: :lol: :lol: Just playing around as I go, to see what differences are being made. :lol: Stay safe AJ

thanks AJ. hey, as far as i'm concerned those are real world tests. numbers are just that. and in a world where everything is relative, i think your spot on. i just want my 2 1/2 year old son to stay sleeping at 11:00 pm while i'm recording drums. do you have any issues with the HVAC? thanks again. this is exactly the kind of dialouge i have been looking for. piotr

Wolffie, I did something that I know without a doubt will go against the grain of many on here, reference my Heat and Air,,,,,and,,,,Ventilator system (heat recovery ventilator). Since I didnt want to compromise the exterior walls anywhere I didnt absolutely have to, and since I bought a Heat Recovery Ventilator to install so the musicians wont suffocate :shock: What I ended up doing is this. I ended up getting a Sanyo Multi Mini Split outdoor unit capable of supplying 3 indoor units. (Obvisouly I matched up the BTU's of the outdoor unit to run all 3),,,,,BUT,,,,after looking everything over, I did a last minute huge change. I suspended the Heat Recovery Ventilator over the ISO Booth which is located in the control room. I added a switch on an outlet, so that at my control desk. I can turn if off and on (or if the ISO room is being used for example). THEN (and now it gets good) after looking over the areas where I had to cut my 2- 6" holes for the intake and exaust for the ventilator, I decided that was pretty evasive on the exterior wall, plus then, just thinking about insects or whatever may/could get into these large vents etc. (even with the bird and bug covers on). Pennsylvania is inundated with those stupid ugly little brown stinkbugs this year, and they are everywhere and crawling into everything. :evil: :evil: So, one night laying in bed while counting Class A Preamps in my head instead of Sheep, :lol: I thought, why not turn the ventilator into a simple circulator between the control room and the tracking room?? So,,,I ran the ducts so that they Intake from the Control room (which is a room with PLENTY of natural ventilation open to a 2nd floor with doors and windows etc,,,,I ran the vent ducts to intake and discharge in front of the one 12K AC/HEAT indoor unit in the control room ,,,and now feeding the tracking room. This one ton unit will, on its own, cool and heat the whole first floor, so why not let it?? I also made sure that I used insulated flex duct, and have a coupel 90 degree bends in the ductwork. I also have a 2nd 1-ton Heat/AC unit for the 2nd floor. Now the question,,,"you cant exaust into anouther room or attic etc".....well the attic part is correct, BUT if you want to use it as a circulator, and there are no combustible gas in the other room (which there isnt in my control room) then codes said "there is nothing wrong with that" and they already approved it. :wink: Here is the best part,,,,due to a mix up, and due to what I originally ordered from Sanyo as far as Indoor Units, I now have an extra TWO 9,000BTU indoor units. I will keep one for awhile just in case this circulator gig dosent pan out, and I have to, or want to add another unit in the Tracking Room. That later add will be a simple thing to do if needed (I always leave the door of options open) But I think this circulator idea is going to work out fine, and quite honestly I think it will help balance the overall indoor temp as well between the Mini Splits and the Heat Recovery Vent. I am still pondering though the condensation end of it all, with the recovery vent,,,,I'll have to keep an eye on that) Sooooo (long winded as I just got) to answer your question, the only moving air in the tracking room now, will be what is coming from the incoming duct from the Heat Recovery Vent. I plugged it in, turned it on high speed, walked into tracking room and felt the air coming out rather nicely,,,,,but,,,,couldnt hear a thing as far as any fans running or air moving. :D Hey as far as I see it with this whole project,,,,there is alot of guesswork, and alot of experimenting. I am not afraid to try different things and if they dont work, then I'll correct it as needed. I think when this is all done, I could write a book or long post on titled "Dont Get Yourself Tooo Caught Up In The Whole Studio Build Game!" Lots learned through this ordeal. On a side note: I had two graduate professional engineers come in and scope out the place. I wont repeat the words they used, but said basically that for the level of home or project studios, quit worrying about the same details that go into world class studios. Dont dump piles of cash into theories or even factual studies, when you may not need to. The one laughed and said, I will track in Studio A (a well built studio, but one that does not have every extra detail covered as far as sound isolation etc) and you put your top engineer in World Class Studio B which has the 3 layers of Green Glue on all the walls among everything else etc, then when the tracking is done,,,you tell me which CD was done in which studio (figuring they used the same recording equipment). I think his point was,,,alot of the tracking issues we really need to be worrying about are the caliber of the engineer running the show, and less on the specifics of the build of the room. (although you DO have to pay attention to some of the details) Bottom line they said,,,you dont have to break the bank to end up with a respectful studio. Not everyone is building to World Class specifications. (This was the same guy who laughed when I told him I had a steal price I found for an SSL console I wanted to maybe get. I told him the price, and he laughed and said,,,"thats a great buy,,,now why would you be a jackass and buy it since you cant justify it, for the type Studio your planning to have and work your planning to take in?". Gotta love it when they're honest and bring ya back down to earth. :lol: :lol: Ok...gotta run...the boyz are out mudding and taping walls with some bazooka looking gun. :shock: :D I snuck off for an Ice Tea break. Stay safe AJ