How to treat the glass panel ceiling zone ?
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1- The room :
Size: 18 / 14.4 / 7.7 ft ( 550 / 440 / 237. cm )
It’s a basement , concrete & brick walls, with
2 thick glass panels above. Day light comes down from the ceiling, a precious feature
for comfort.
A first basic job was done in there to chase humidity and offer decent sound proof .
Floating concrete floor/ rockWool—plaster panel walls, strong ventilation . A “box-in-a-box”.
If we take the room size in account, according to most advises,
the best mix position would be right under one of the glass panels.
and that is...
2- The problem
The ceiling above the mixing position is critical area,
where some frequencies have to be absorbed, and others diffused....
A flat transparent plexi or glass panel would not be
much of a diffusor, and absorb my ....
3- A solution :
I imagined a transparent plexiglass Shroeder diffusor .
The shroeder diffusor is quite easy to
design an built, as you find
precise dimensions on this web site:
http://www.mhsoft.nl/diffusor2.asp#calcul
4- My question is:
Is it a viable solution.
If yes, what would be the type of calculation/ measurement to do to determine
the size/ frequency range to cover in diffusion.
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Thank you for reading this .
Any of your answers would be usefull,
and a cool welcome for me, as this is my very first post here.
I feel this forum/site is THE place, about listening "gourmets" !
(I'm french, that's why my ... accent!)
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treat a transparent glass panel ceiling
Originally posted at johnlsayers.com, topic 9477.
i think RPG sells a plexiglass diffuser that may be easier and just as cost effective. http://www.rpginc.com/products/omniffusor/index.htm
Thank you.
I now have to think about what to do for the rest of the ceiling. (non transparent areas.)
I guess the action of a diffuser should be alternated by absorbers around,
and the big question now is:
Simple MF-HF "cloud" absorbers, or deeper freq range helmoltz
broadrange slat reso ???
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That's another discution, I know, so let me make quick tour around the forum to see where that could be discused,
hoping to find you there and benefit from your precious help .
Cheers
You have a sky light. What is the size of this sky light? Or maybe a picture is available?2 thick glass panels above. Day light comes down from the ceiling,
nyves - from your pdf file it looks like the glass ceiling is well behind you and therefore shouldn't be a problem provided the rear of the room is absorption thus stopping any returns from the rear.
Placing a diffusor above your listening position WOULD be a problem IMO as the scattering of reflected frequencies would cloud your imaging.
He has two lights overhead John.
One is directly over the monitoring position.
Is that a lot of glass or no?
Thanks Brien - I missed it.
As I said a diffusor would add additional problems - I'd angle a sheet of 3/8" or 1/2" glass or perspex over the console and under the skylight - that would allow the light through but stop the vertical reflections from it.
cheers
john
thank you John.
A simple flat glass panel with an angle, ok.
And I just thought, when some absorpsion is needed over head,
i could alway create a removable soft panel
(fixed with magnets, or rolled asside on curtain rods...i'll find a way,
fiberglass is light weight.)
only when better sound definition is
more needed than light , and when comes the night !
Knowing that front wall will have basstrap under soffits +
mids & highs absorptions, LEDE like,
what would you choose as an angle for that glass panel ?
(A or B, on the picture)
version B is what I had in mind.
Cool,
the question now have an answer !
... time for me to download "Sketchup", now,
and start a clean design for eventual future post.
(right now, I try to sketch on Maya", witch is like using a bulldozer
to cut the grass..)
Encore merci.
A bientôt.