Derrimut Street Studio Ongoing Construction.

Started by Ratty_7 on 7 July 2007. 51 replies, 2007–2016. In the Library under Build diaries. Key posts in this thread.

Originally posted at johnlsayers.com, topic 9081.

The next pic shows looking into the vocal booth.
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Next pic showing the AC power and audio cable in the inner walls. Note the "Armaflex" under the frame, and the whole assemply being caulked so that all will be airtight...I hope :D Well that's it for now, as i'm stuffed and ready for bed...cherrio god bless.... Mike
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Thanks for sharing Mike - nice pics. :thu:
Thanks John, I've had the flu for the past week and am just about to put some more pics up. Having said that, I have had the aircon guy in this week and he asked me me to ask you, if I should use acoustic duct? as he is worried that sound from the vocal and drum booths might bleed sound through the ducts into each studio while tracking. Is this possible and what is the is the best way to combat this? He suggests acoustic duct, the stuff with the holes on the inside or should I make some of those bafel boxes up and put one say between the vocal booth and drum room and drum room and large tracking and finally one from tracking just before going into control?
In the meantime on with the pics.... "Rondo 581" acoustic furring channel, I discovered through my next door neighbour and so I decided to get some of this wonderful but prohibitively exspensive product @ $22.00 AUD per 3.6 metres. The engineering specs are amazing for a product which has only has one leg....!!! But I figured if ya stand one leg and think in terms of isolation it makes bloody good sense doesn't it....!!! Suffice to say the design will hold up 25Kg per sq metre which as you can see by the following is very good. 8) Note the Furrinf chanel is screwed into the F17 hardwood using 25m/m "S" plaster screws as recommended, by Rondo. Rondo advise not to use nails as the weight 25kg won't hold and one may in deep trouble...!!! As a chippy myself I am always aware of safety as at the end of the day the people we serve are more important than the studio itself...!!!
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Here's more pics of the 581 chanel in Control room.
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Here is the main tracking looking to the control room and the next pic main tracking looking to the vocal and drum booths....!!!
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Ratty_7 wrote:
Thanks John, I've had the flu for the past week and am just about to put some more pics up. Having said that, I have had the aircon guy in this week and he asked me me to ask you, if I should use acoustic duct? as he is worried that sound from the vocal and drum booths might bleed sound through the ducts into each studio while tracking. Is this possible and what is the is the best way to combat this? He suggests acoustic duct, the stuff with the holes on the inside or should I make some of those bafel boxes up and put one say between the vocal booth and drum room and drum room and large tracking and finally one from tracking just before going into control?
well you are from Victoria and everyone in vic has the flu as I understand it :) The metal boxed acoustic duct is preferential when there is only a short run. or you could use this kind of duct:
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Thanks John, I'll send the aircon guy the picture.....take care Mike
if you are looking for a platerboard lifter for yourl roof panels, i'll be selling mine in a few weeks for $100. sure beats hiring at $50/day :wink:
horizonsound wrote:
if you are looking for a platerboard lifter for yourl roof panels, i'll be selling mine in a few weeks for $100. sure beats hiring at $50/day :wink:
Wow thanks mate, my number is 0417383583 Mike Hirsh
i'll give you a call when i get back (in toronto this week), but still have about 4 sheets to complete, or abouts one day of work left.
horizonsound wrote:
i'll give you a call when i get back (in toronto this week), but still have about 4 sheets to complete, or abouts one day of work left.
Thanks mate, I could do with it in the next week and a bit as I would like to start in the Melb school holidays if possible....!!! Mike ps Perhaps I could give you a hand...???
hi mike, i've finished with the lifter, but there may be a problem. it only lifts to 11ft (3.35m) and your ceiling looks pretty high. could you check this is still ok. if so, i could drop by monday evening if that suits. anthony
Hi Anthony Thanks for your email...The plaster lifter will be OK as it only has to lift 3.0 exactly so it will be ok ,,,,YAHOOOO please give me a call asap 0417-383583 OR 9312-7391.
Hi Guys I have just started to put in the inner ceiling, first layer of 16m/m firecheck plaster board and I think I made blew, me thinks. I have put down lights in the ceiling and now there are 80m/m holes to house the units. My question is....Does the whole of the inner ceilng have to be airtight? If so, I can put the downlights in a ceiling cloud and then plug up the holes. I will then put in the second layer which should seal it good....!!! Any advice would be well appreciated Cheers Mike
OOPS, Were you going to go with a cloud anyway? I'd be plugging up the holes doing the 2nd layer and looking at a surface mount light or a cloud.
Deanna's right Mike - you'll have to seal the holes up and mount your lights in the clouds :)
Hi John and Inkspot Thanks for your expert advice....that's exactly what I thought. I can fix the problem no dramas and seal the tracking room. I like the idea of putting the down lights in the clouds, as I feel the ceilings will need some absorbstion anyway...!! How much of course will depend on the room when I have finished construction. take care Mike
Mike - there are two types of cloud - one allows the sound through so it reflects off the ceiling and goes back through the absorption again, (good low end absorption) or the cloud has a solid upper surface and when angled breaks up floor to ceiling standing waves. Lights can be installed in either, a cloud is your friend :)
Hi John, Thanks for making me aware of the alternative clouds. However, since I am one of the few around modeling my studio on the inside outside design, which type of "friendly" cloud do you think I should use? As I have seen some wonderful designs on this site, I am wondering would you personally have a preference, considering the type of music I'm recording, Jazz, Blues, Rockish or does it not matter? cheers Mike :D
Mike - if the ceiling above you is angled you can use the straight thru cloud, but if it's a flat ceiling use the hard backed cloud and angle it.
Hi John Kool, my ceilings are all angled, so when the time comes for treatment I'll be using a straight through cloud.... Would four inches thick be enough, then cove it with 18 oz hessian. there some nice stuff around as hemp is very expensive. Mike
Hi all I have a question? 1. My control room is the inside/outside design and is 4.5 length by 3.3 width and is 2.8 at the highest point 2. In the rear window cavity (see picture) it is slightly to one side and not between the speakers, does this really matter, in terms of treatment? ie diffusion Mike
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2. In the rear window cavity (see picture) it is slightly to one side and not between the speakers, does this really matter, in terms of treatment? iediffusion
Did you fill that cavity with absorption? If so, then no problem. The lack of symmetry back there is not an issue, in that case. - Stuart -