This was sent to me by 4runner4sale who asked me to post it for him as he wanted all photos posted and the 6 limit hindered him from doing it - so here it is - great job mate :)
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Hello Everyone,
I have spent countless hours gaining knowledge on this forum, and decided it’s time for me to give back.
Below you will find photos of a 12’ X 19.5” room. 3 walls are 9” thick concrete, and one is drywall. The ceilings are 12’ tall with 1’ wide steel joists. All rooms are a challenge, especially small ones. This was no different.
The key to building a “home” studio, for the do it yourself person, is to take what you’ve got, and make it work the best you can…that’s it. 80% of this studio’s design was learned from John’s site, and this forum. Hiring an Acoustician was not an option for me. So information on most everything you see is within this forum. Time hinders me from answering any questions, but I’ll try to do what I can when possible, if @ all. Bass traps are John’s design, room design is mine, ceiling was on this forum, the rest was trial and error.
The room has been tested the old fashion way…ears. And I’m happy to say it sounds awesome! The live room is “live”, and the control room is “controlled”. A very slight build up in the mid range, but not enough to effect anything. So all in all, a success.
Decoupling was key, as were bass traps. The divider wall is a double wall. The door is a steel acoustical door, and the window, the same. Both are from Specialty Doors + Automation, [removed] El Segundo CA 90245, [removed]. Insulation is 2” Owens Corning 703, from the fine people @ CWCI Insulation of L.A. 727 S. Ninth Avenue City of Industry, CA 91745 Phone: [removed]. Fabric from Gilford of Maine. We used “Sheet Block” under the drywall/cement board combo. It’s available all over the net, but don’t buy it through Auralex…too expensive. Everything else, builder supply.
A quick note on “sound proofing”. There is a product called Quiet Rock. It sells for about $90.00 a sheet. It’s a great product, but don’t waste your money. We looked @ this product and realized that it’s ½” drywall, glued to a piece of ¼” Hardie backer (cement board). You can purchase both of these products @ Home Depot for less than half that price. Then glue them together with Sekaflex. Don’t forget to caulk all your seems. Make everything water tight. You’ll see the gray Sekaflex on all the walls in the photos. I can’t even imagine how many tubes we went through, but it paid off.
I hope this info, along with photos, helps someone as much as this forum helped me. Best case scenario, if you can, call John. If not, read, read, read.
ENJOY!
Time To Give back, Thanks John & Friends
Originally posted at johnlsayers.com, topic 9038.
sdf
Hello,
The wood (pine) was purchased from Home Depot. We then ripped it to the proper width, sanded, stained, lacquered, cut to length, installed.
Beautiful. Could you possibly, at the least, post some more in-depth details for each picture? Great job.
Picture 9CntrlRoom3.jpg show 2" Owens Corning 703 Fiberglass Boards in which appear to be the same thickness everywhere in that picture. Then in Picture 11CntrlRoomFinish.jpg, it shows two different frequency range traps. Does the wood play a roll in this? Because I read 703 fiberglass boards are good for high frequency absorption.
Reta
Congratulations the studio looks incredible :D
What kind of flooring did you use? and was the wood stain pre mixed or did you customise to go with the flooring?
Once again conrgatulations on making such a good looking space
cheers
Alan
You did an EXCELLENT job coordinating your colors-n-all'. That's really a BEAUTIFUL studio! Congrats!
Hey 4runner4sale,
Very beautiful look to the studio -- you must be very proud and you should be. :-)
I do have a question/concern though. I saw this image...
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...and I'm trying to figure it out.
I suspect that decoupling did not actually occur with that technique, and if it did, it might not be secure/stable and it might have actually decreased isolation. I can't say for sure of course, because we'd need more information.
--Keith :mrgreen:Some really nice work you done there, the colours and lighting work well to create a 'creative' space. I am currently planning a studio build of similar dimensions and was wondering (regarding the bass and mid traps you have in your control room), what was different between the two traps to give them their respective absorption ranges? Meaning, they look like the same type of slat resonator design but did you do something different behind the slats?
Cheers
Matt
I suspect that decoupling did not actually occur with that technique, and if it did, it might not be secure/stable and it might have actually decreased isolation. I can't say for sure of course, because we'd need more information.
Hey Keith,
If you're referring to the floor, this was the best we could do to separate the wood "live room" floor, from the control room floor. Every little bit helps, believe me.
If you're referring to the sheetblok used to de-couple the wood, this works, and very well. Also, being that sheetblok is so dense, it's very secure. We just slipped it in between every joint where wood touched wood, before nailing it securely in place. You can hear the difference immediately by just tapping it with a hammer. When wood touches wood, it obviously transfers more sound than a "buffer" slipped in between. Again, it all adds up. I might be throwing the word "de-coupling" around too loosely. Maybe I should say "buffering".
Thanks for the kind words!
..."I am currently planning a studio build of similar dimensions and was wondering (regarding the bass and mid traps you have in your control room), what was different between the two traps to give them their respective absorption ranges? Meaning, they look like the same type of slat resonator design but did you do something different behind the slats?"
Hi,
I used John's designs, found here:
http://www.johnlsayers.com/HR/index1.htm
..."What kind of flooring did you use? and was the wood stain pre mixed or did you customise to go with the flooring? "
It's solid rosewood, purchased from a friend in Thailand.
Thanks for the kind words!