A moveable wall and my studio? Help/comments please?

Started by Sound byte on 20 January 2007. 5 replies.

Originally posted at johnlsayers.com, topic 8000.

A moveable wall and my studio? Help/comments please? I have seen a variety of studios each having splayed walls. I downloaded sketchup (thanks to John Sayer) and have made the plan up to scale. The first file shows the dimensions. The second file shows modifications to splay one wall and to make an attempt to have the monitor speakers be flush with walls. I was considering making the movable wall from a standard timber frame with plywood and inner insulation. I was considering making one side reflective and one dead (see file two) as I have done with the other panel (see file one). My space is severely limited and that is why I have opted to use the studio for the control room also. I have rigged up two boxes “A” so I can use a junction box in order to record drums live have good isolation and separation when mixing on the far east side if I have to. I have used the garage door side, (far east side) as a waiting room when I have taught students in the past and may teach from home again in the future. I thought of a nifty idea by using the large sound-lock to house the computers thereby keep all the fan noise away. The mouse and screen wires to go through a hole which I intend to cover the hole with lead. I am aiming for a dead room as possible and I will be using PC software such as reaper to record with. The walls are 2400 mm tall. We are in a quiet street so I am more concerned keep the band noise in. The mass spring mass rule has got be worried with the wall that faces the house because it is typical plaster (drywall) stud plaster (drywall) on the south side. The walls will be filled with timber, plaster, bricks and whatever I can get my hands on. The roof of the existing building (the north, east and west walls is two layers of 5ply with a true garage ceiling above it. The ceiling and all the walls to not touch the existing garage except for the floor which is solid concrete. There you go absolutely any comments will be welcome be they positive, or critical. Thanks guys. By the way, the yellow stuff is the current insulation. And the unsymmetrical walls where the table is on the south side are the extension to the existing studio that was already made.
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I love your idea, I cant help you, but I am on the same level of questionning on this forum ( see New studio & a crazy idea). I hope you will get alot of informations & comments. Iwill read. :D
Thanks for the reply mate. :D Yea I am thinking why not be able to move the walls? There must be a sweet spot somewhere with them nodes/standing wave things? I figure that 6 extra strong fence hinges should do it and a wheel on the other end of the wall. It might be useful for isolation for live recordings too? One thing I have decided is to go as dead as possible so there will be minimal reverb. I figure that the reverb VST plug-in's are pretty dam good and instead of the room controlling the sound, I do. I guess if I was a millionaire I could be a purist and build many rooms for different reverb and I could hire musicians when needed eg a string quartet instead of MIDI but on a teacher’s wage that is a big dream and I think I am too old to be a rock star :? :) :lol: .
Moving walls around seems like a hard thing - for a large wall, you'd have to move a bunch of stuff around to make space and then how would you move it? hinges? wheels? if you change the walls, how do you know you're improving the room modes versus making them worse? given that a few inches can make the difference, you'd probably want the wall to move in pre-determined increments. more complexity... and if high isolation is important then moving the walls and retaining the isolation would seem difficult at best. one approach would seem to be to create a room with good acoustics with moderate reverbation and mode balancing treatments, and then have some other treatments/panels/gobos/etc that can be used to vary the liveness-deadness of the space, and/or provide some moderate isolation or additional absorption as needed. using the variety of wall and free standing panels you can create the spaces you need within your overall good space.
Thanks for the post. :D Yea I am not sure if it will improve the acoustics or not? :? :?: I just thought that because it is variable, it could change the inner dimensions and the angle in which the waves bounce. Like I said, I don’t know if it will be an improvement or not. That is why I am bouncing the idea here to you guys. 8) Permanently splaying walls doesn’t appear to be a feasible option due to the area I have. I will be using the room for rehearsing and recording so I figured that the moving wall idea as a possible solution. I hope to get heaps of feedback on this idea. The area where the wall moves will be clear because I don’t need to have equipment there. It is when the drummers and guitarist keys etc roll up to rehearse that I need the space. When recording, I will probably opt for separate tracks, hence each instrument will be recorded separately and I should have ample room to move the walls around if needed. I have made a wall unit about one sixth the size with no problems so I figure that a larger wall will require more hinges (gate type) and a wheel strong enough to take the weight of the tolerance between the support given by the hinges. My 1st sound lock door weights heaps my guess 200+ kilos? And it moves extremely easy. 8) The isolation idea was more for if I choose to record more than one musician at the same time so it would work as a baffle probably wrong choice of words I used for isolation. :oops: Thanks again for your post :D