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Hello everyone,
I am ready to treat my bedroom studio in order to get a good room sound and mix. I'm not concerned with sound proofing. I am recording acoustic and electric guitar and some vocals in this room.
The wall with the window is a log wall. I am hoping to use Owens Corning 703 or similar to allow me to just hang the treatments on the walls and/or ceiling. I am open to building additional treatments but I hope to be able to use the 703 for simplicity and cost saves.
My workstation currently sits on the wall with the window. I've left it out so recommendations can be easily made. It will fit perfectly on the wall with the closet. I have my monitors (Samson Resolv 65a's) sitting on the upper shelf at ear level pointing at the mix position.
I am using a laptop, Protools -002R and 2 external hard drives.
For my guitar amp (Carvin Legacy Head and 2x12 Cabinet) I am going to set on milk crates stack 2 high (2 feet) and mic the cabinet with multiple mics. I plan to get some heavy moving blankets and enclose the entire setup.
For acoustic I may use the bathroom next door to record in to minimize computer noise in the condenser mic or experiment in the actual room and see how that works.
This is primarily for a progressive rock type of music. Primarily instrumental. All other instruments are created using "Reason".
I don't want to permanently block any doors or window and the closet is currently being used by my wife. :wink:
I hope this helps.
I would like to keep my budget low. $500 or less. But if I am really missing a chance to improve the results for a little more, please let me know. However, the lower the cost the better. I am considering buying 2 more mics to improve my electric guitar tone as that is the most important to me. I currently use an SM57 and a SPB1. I may purchase an MD421 and a Beyer 160 Ribbon.
I live in Ypsilanti, Michigan.
Thanks.Need Bedroom Studio Treatment and Arrangment Advice
Originally posted at johnlsayers.com, topic 6621.
Hope it's OK to bump this. Can anyone offer sound advice? (No pun intended) :lol:
Hope this bump is OK.
warrior - your thread hasn't been responded to becaues you are basically asking what has been answered many many times before on this forum.
read up mate
cheers
john
I understand. I guess I lack confidence in my own ability to use the information on the threads previously answered and apply it to my situation. Mostly the best location for the mix position based on the rooms closet, window and 2 different doors. If I get get pointed in the right direction regarding this one question I would feel more comfortable using the information that others have answered, as you mentioned above, to complete my treatments for the room. Thanks.warrior - your thread hasn't been responded to becaues you are basically asking what has been answered many many times before on this forum. read up mate cheers john
This is my first post on this form! I'm currently working on a small room also.
1. I'm not a pro at this, but I've spent HOURS and HOURS of reading not only this site, but several others.
2. I will pass on what I THINK might help. Maybe these ideas will need tweeking, but, maybe they will be of some help.
3. I just recorded an electric guitar in my UNTREATED room with an SP TB1 and boy was I in for a shock. I can really tell I need those bass traps! Also the sound was bouncing off the walls in many places I had not notice. It really showed up in recording. It's amazing how different the voice is to record in this room compared to the electric!
So,
1. I would arrange the room so the speaker fire down the longest wall. I know the room is almost square, but every reply I got to the same question you are asking was "put your desk on the shortest wall and let the speakers fire down the longest".
2. I don't know how the log wall will affect everything, but I would work on bass traps in every corner, even if they are portable for the corners where doorways are. You can move them when need be, but they will really help with the bass in the room. Don't forget about trying some bass panels in the corner sections where the walls meet the ceiling.
3. Regarding the computer noise, Ethan Winer uses 703 to keep that down. Here's the link http://www.ethanwiner.com/acoustics.html. There is so much info here!
4. I'm building my 703 panels to be easily moved so I can fine tune the room before hanging them. I would suggest you try that too. This way you can move them around room and see what sounds best. Also, you can arrange them for special needs, like tracking etc.
5. You should consider a cloud of two placed on the ceiling. At least one over the mixing area.
I know there's much more, but, even if you buy new mics, the BEST mics out there, will not work correctly if your room is bad.
Finally, when money is the driving force, which it is for me also, prioritize and think of doing this over a few months. Not just over a weekend. This way, as you get more cash, you just add more panels and any other equipment you need.
I hope this helps.
This is my first post on this form! I'm currently working on a small room also.
1. I'm not a pro at this, but I've spent HOURS and HOURS of reading not only this site, but several others.
2. I will pass on what I THINK might help. Maybe these ideas will need tweeking, but, maybe they will be of some help.
3. I just recorded an electric guitar in my UNTREATED room with an SP TB1 and boy was I in for a shock. I can really tell I need those bass traps! Also the sound was bouncing off the walls in many places I had not notice. It really showed up in recording. It's amazing how different the voice is to record in this room compared to the electric!
So,
1. I would arrange the room so the speaker fire down the longest wall. I know the room is almost square, but every reply I got to the same question you are asking was "put your desk on the shortest wall and let the speakers fire down the longest".
2. I don't know how the log wall will affect everything, but I would work on bass traps in every corner, even if they are portable for the corners where doorways are. You can move them when need be, but they will really help with the bass in the room. Don't forget about trying some bass panels in the corner sections where the walls meet the ceiling.
3. Regarding the computer noise, Ethan Winer uses 703 to keep that down. Here's the link http://www.ethanwiner.com/acoustics.html. There is so much info here!
4. I'm building my 703 panels to be easily moved so I can fine tune the room before hanging them. I would suggest you try that too. This way you can move them around room and see what sounds best. Also, you can arrange them for special needs, like tracking etc.
5. You should consider a cloud of two placed on the ceiling. At least one over the mixing area.
I know there's much more, but, even if you buy new mics, the BEST mics out there, will not work correctly if your room is bad.
Finally, when money is the driving force, which it is for me also, prioritize and think of doing this over a few months. Not just over a weekend. This way, as you get more cash, you just add more panels and any other equipment you need.
I hope this helps.
Thank you.