Pics. of steve's new Studio from the start

Started by fisher of men on 5 November 2005. 41 replies. In the Library under Build diaries. Key posts in this thread.

Originally posted at johnlsayers.com, topic 4619.

I’m finally starting the construction on my studio.... here are some pics. of the ceiling, insulation, and drywall going up. skylight sealed up, ichey... , firstlayer of rock i cant wait to be done with the ceiling! :( steve
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What kind of insulation are you using? Is it JM? len
Don't you want to stagger the seams on the panels going up for strength? :?
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Also, IIRC your roof is rolled roofing over plywood, then the visible joists, then sheet rock??!? Do you NOT need maximum isolation to the outside world, or??!? Steve
Don't you want to stagger the seams on the panels going up for strength?
I will on the other layers.
What kind of insulation are you using? Is it JM?
Yes 6 3/4"
Also, IIRC your roof is rolled roofing over plywood, then the visible joists, then sheet rock??!? Do you NOT need maximum isolation to the outside world
My only other option would be RC and I am more conserned with LF. 2 layers should be enough, if not i will add a 3rd layer. Thank you all for your posts, ill keep the pics comeing as i make progress. steve
shaward wrote:
Don't you want to stagger the seams on the panels going up for strength? Confused
Is that staggering you show recommended? Whenever I heard that, I always thought that we were talking about, for example, making one layer lay North/South and the next layer lay East/West. Should the staggering you are suggesting be done in addition to this? Good thing I waited on starting my drywall!!! :-) len
It's both, if you want the smoothest surface possible and the least chance of air leaks, as well as a stronger wall... Steve
Right. "Staggering" means making a brick wall type pattern with the drywall sheets. "Rotating" means alternating the direction of each layer of sheets. Both done together increase strength and flatness.
I guess that's the problem of having a job like mine where I can spend pretty much all day (and half the night) working on a project like this: I'm so pooped out that I've totally lost my grasp on the English language! Rotate of course means to turn it 90 degrees. I don't think it's going to make much more work because my rooms are all oddly shaped to there's lots of cutting to do either way. len
The first layer is up ! 42 sheets...... im tired. steve
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Guess we all know who the real "rocker" is, hmmmm?? (At least for now, anyway :wink: )
I noticed you have a drywall lifter. How has that worked out for you? Are you doing all the drywall work yourself? This inquiring mind wants to know... He'll be doing the same in the not-too-distant future! I was planning to purchase a Panellift Telpro 138-2, with the intent of selling it on eBay when I'm done with it. I don't want to be on a "rental clock." Thanks for sharing the photos. 8) --Keith :mrgreen:
What does one of those panel lifts cost????
They're not cheap... About $700 or so (not counting any of the accessories), around $200 to $300 higher than the competition. However, from what I have learned, pros love the Telpro. (I even asked a drywall contractor while he was gassing up his truck! :lol:) They also hold their value fairly well on eBay.
Without the lift this would be impossible as the ceiling is 13 ft. so far I have been able to do all the panels myself, most only lift to 11 ft. so I had to get the extension that will lift to 15ft. I got mine on ebay, with shipping it came to around 300$ However the crank assembly is flimsy and with the extension it adds allot of stress to that crank. I am hoping it will last for one more layer. If you are only lifting to 11ft. it will work fine, once I get to my walls ill put the 11ft. extension back in and feel much safer. get the "pro model" if you can afford it and I wouldn’t recommend 12ft. sheets with this model. steve
Well I got started on the second layer......Rotated to make stronger and more airtight. Cant wait to be done with the ceiling! steve
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Just as long as the seams dont mate up (except of course at the walls. :) )
I can’t find a way around it! Some seams will always mach-up because the edges of the drywall have to be screwed to the studs, unless i am missing something (and I probably am as my brain is fried) :shock: steve
Shift one layer (the second one, now) over by TWO feet and same lengthwise; cut half-sheets to fill the 2 foot blank areas, then continue with full sheets to the end, then fill with whatever size works for the last sheet in each dimension - that way, you have at least a 2 foot offset for each joint in each direction (assuming your joists are on 2 foot centers) HTH... Steve
fisher of men wrote:
I got mine on ebay, with shipping it came to around 300$ However the crank assembly is flimsy and with the extension it adds allot of stress to that crank.
I too have seen that "infamous red copycat model" on eBay for a few hundred dollars less than the "real" TelPro one. I feared it was too flimsy, and your report confirms this. In my case, I only have to go up about 10 feet... But still, I'm a chicken, so I'm still planning to get the one with "pro" in its name so that (1) I can have more confidence in it and (2) I can get more money for it when I sell it when I'm done. 8) Thanks for the info!
I got started on the second layer......Rotated to make stronger and more airtight.
I see -- but you're still not staggering!! :evil: I hate to repeat myself, but...
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Thanks guys for all your help and good ideas, i have got to much done to start over now and i am hopeing that i wont have to much performance loss. knightfly,,, I did shift over 2' on the side and now there are very few seams that line up. I now see what you are saying, and I will use it on the walls. Thanks again, steve
And you'd better stagger the panels on the walls, or I'm gonna take I-5 south to your neck of the woods and knock you upside the head with a drywall scrap! :shock: ;-)
:oops: :oops: I know better now........ steve
hello, sorry to jump in here so late, but i did not notice a vapor barrier on your ceiling - shouldn't there be one just between the insulation and drywall? :?:
fisher of men wrote:
:oops: :oops: I know better now........ steve
Hey Fisher remember this one... In All thy Getting, get an understanding :) It's cool we all are learning in here. :)