Looking for help on Layout and design

Started by I Annoy on 2 August 2005. 47 replies.

Originally posted at johnlsayers.com, topic 4133.

Well I turned it because of the access needed to get to the breaker box and drainage cleanout. IMO if you do it the way she wants it, it turns that space into almost a perfect square which isn't good, it has do with how the sound reacts and reflects in the space. Meaning you need atleast 2 ft more in depth of the room to your width. John and others here can explain it better than I can as I am a newb to this forum as well. I have just picked up the jist of why things are done they way they are due to reading alot of the posts here. So I tend to stick with what I have learned. Don't appologize and please don't feel like you made me do all that work for nothing because I know I didnt do it for nothing. Because it was a experiance of accomplishment knowing I tried to help someone see a layout for their project studio and my growing knowledge of how things work in a studio. But I'll be honest I have lots more to learn here and will continue to try and help on this great site when I can. All I can ask your wife is to reconsider about the placement of the control room.
Thanks Doni, I do really appreciate the effort you put into it. Nube or not :) I think the room that John designed for Ruben that I posted above would be OK as my room would be 2 feet longer. The room would be 13' wide by 17' long. The angled wall to the right of the control desk would also give me access to the Electrical panel and drain pipe. I could build a window plug for tha 2x3 window as well so that when I am not recording I could also have sunlight and fresh air come through with the slider open. I could build the the tracking/live room later.
Which will be a great sounding room :) Like I said my tiny 13x11 space based on a similar design
Well I know it will fit your wifes bill of approval lol. But I DONT know if it will fly acoustically I'll let the experts say yes or no.
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make sure that left wall in the CR is angled. what is the depth of the CR?? Also dont do that bumpy angle on the right wall. :)
Good to see you back here again, Bryan. Doni - Your last control room, in my opinion, is pretty close but I would, as Bryan suggested, splay the side walls from front to back. If you go in 1-2 ft from each corner in the front and draw the wall on an angle such that it meets the side wall at the point where you have the rear corner panels meeting the side walls you will add just enough to keep the sidewall reflections from bouncing back to the mixing position. I'm not sure what that little bump in the wall next to the console on the right side is for but I think it might create a problem. Just my opinion, though. Darryl.....
Hopefully this small adjustment will work
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It would if that would pass code. You would have to check with your local BRA's (building code inspector) to see if you could do that. They might tell you, you need a minimal amount of space in order to close it in that is why I left it completely open in my drawings But the layout should be more like this.
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It looks like we have a winner. If I can get that passed by the inspector this would be the ideal way. Thanks so much Doni. We are startingh tomorrow on prepping the area fro construction.
Your VERY WELCOME Vince Just keep us informed on whether it will pass code or not. And when you start construction take lots of pics for us to see your progress. I definately want to watch this one go up knowing I helped design it. Hell if I lived closer I'd come help you build it.
Just make sure you won't be getting 1st reflections off the sliders Cheers, Ross
DreaminDrumBeats wrote:
Hell if I lived closer I'd come help you build it.
Dude, you are helping people build stuff! :mrgreen: You rock!
LOL. Yeah in the design sense I am but I wanna get my hands dirty you know. I'd love to build one inbetween building houses for a living.
Man. I am sooo jealous of all you guys in the states who have basements. My little recording room looks quite anorexic by comparison. :lol:
I too used to think about how ideal it would be to have a basement for my space. Then I spent some time on this forum and I saw the down side (no pun intended!) of most domestic basements. They're short. :( My project will be in my garage, and my whole house (including the attached 3-car garage) has 10 foot ceilings -- many homes built here in the past 5 years or so have 10 foot ceilings, compared to the 8 foot standard that was commonplace before that. So, please, never mind your basement envy. Become jealous of me and my 10 foot ceilings as a starting point! :lol: And then sympathize with me that the "10 foot" figure also applies to the distance between my house and my neighbor's house! :shock: That is all. ;)
well done guys - I wish you'd learn sketchup Doni :):) does your program have a perspective view?? BTW - I'd remove the middle slider from the hall. The power board and access to drain/water is built into a slot wall in the Blue Bear studio with an access door.
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cheers john
John wrote:
BTW - I'd remove the middle slider from the hall.
Arghhh, I was just going to say that! Since the hallway is a part of the "air" in the mass-air-mass formula, isolation won't be very great in the hall itself... But who cares? :) Not to mention, it will be roomier in the hall without that extra slider in the way. 8)
I would John but can't afford the program as I downloaded the trial version and 8 hrs is just not enough time to learn it and get comfortable using it. And by perspective view you mean like if I was sitting in the control room at the desk and looking into the live room or vocal booth? Here is the fixed drawing with 3D rendering to the recomendation from John and Kieth Not bad for a newbie huh John :D :D
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Nice job, Doni. And John didn't object to anything I said so that makes me feel a bit better about my limited knowledge :D If you haven't checked out the BlueBear studio that John designed, you really should. It is a classy design in a typical north American basement that, according to Bruce Valeriani, the owner, sounds truly awesome. Cheers, Darryl.....
I have looked at Bluebear Sound yeah it's a really nice looking studio. Thanks for the compliment Darryl. Hearing all the kudos from everyone is 8) and it also lets me know I'm getting the fundementals of studio design down and yet learn as I'm doing it
Hey all, This is a great looking site and everyone seems very helpful and well informed. I am buying a new home and will be in a very similar situation to I annoy, and I am just wondering what program Doni is using to draw up these layouts? I look forward to learning from you all. Cam