Help with room studio plan

Hi all Im glad to have arrived at this website and for last week or so I've been gathering as much information as I can so that I'm able to devise some sort of design layout for a studio in my room. For now, I would like to know about any recommendations for my room so I'll have something to start with and go further from there. Firstly about myself: I live in Singapore and I live in a block building on the second floor. I play keyboards and my bandmates would occasionally come over with their acoustic guitar, electric guitar and bass to fool around with some ideas for music composition and whatnot. My apartment: The apartment is a 5 room unit: large living room, dining area, a closed balcony, kitchen+bathroom, a master bedroom+bathroom and 2 decent sized rooms. Below is a link to the graphic layout of the room in which I would like to turn into a studio. http://www.geocities.com/rayden_zul/studiolayout.GIF (let me know if the link doesnt work) The dimensions are all there but i did not put the floor-to-ceiling height. It is: 235cm Tight room to work with but eventually and hopefully the following could be achieved: 1. Decent sized control room 2. 1 Recording booth suitable for both Vocals/Acoustic guitar is a must. And lastly, which i think is impossible but I'm giving it a shot anyway lol: 3. No need for no.2. Instead, a comfortable sized studio for a standard drum set up, my 2 guitarists and 1 bassist inside as well for rehearsing. I can play my keys from the control room. Thanks for any advice and diagrams given.

ok since im not gettin any replies most probably is the issue about the layout i posted being too big. Anyway, i resized it and also made use of the bedroom studio sample from SAE's website and designed a layout. I dont need to buildup the control room for now cuz i'll be doing mixing and monitoring thru headphones....but im definitely saving up the space for future construction upgrade. But having drums in the studio is a must. Possible? Comments? Thanks (PS: Once again the floor-to-ceiling height is 235cm)

your drawing is not to scale which throws the ideas out. here it is to scale with a setup similar to what you drew. cheers john

Thanks for the diagram John! Sorry abt not drawing in scale...i used MS Excel to draw the room layout and Photoshop to edit the SAE sample lol. Anyway, the brown panels are bass absorbers right? What do you suggest i line the annoying pillar in the studio with? Panel absorbers? Will the right angled pillar affect the acoustics of the oddly shaped studio? Thanks!

Hi It's been a long while and after much consideration, I've decided to just make the above room a mixing room. Been thinking how to redesign the room to maximise the size of the room. My biggest problem is working around the entrance of the room. (door width 85cm) Reversing the way the door opens is not an option unfortunately. Thanks.

What abt this? I put a window there because in the original diagram by John, he didnt include it. Again the windows, and the wall space before/after the window are not made to scale. Window length = 246.5cm Wall space before/after window = 39cm As such, the redesign (the unshaded parts) are not in scale too lol. I did it using paint! sorry. Anyway, my worry would be the angles of the rear walls and the front left/right walls. Also, i've seen kendale's control room build and i would like to achieve something like that since i'm not able to do a major renovation of my small room. Comments?

Aloha df, Curious as to where/what does the window view? Aloha 8)

You mean where does the window look out to? If that's what u meant, the window leads to outdoors where it's near a road. I dont intend to cover the window totally with an absorber. Maybe a combination of absorber and glass. The room is on the second floor by the way. And behind the rear wall is my parent's bedroom.

What programs are y'all using to make those floor plans pictures? I want to make one to show someone what im working with... Nevermind, I guess its called Sketchup, is there a cheaper version similar to that???

Is this what you had in mind? cheers john

Wow! Thanks John! The overall design is definitely easier to construct than what I made! Thanks alot for that! I love what you did with the rear wall. Makes me wonder why I didn't think of that design earlier. I guess I restricted myself too much when I worry about the door banging the rear wall but nothing a simple door stop couldnt solve. Since the design has been made easier to build, I thought of an alternative to make construction even easier. Instead of glass on the sidewall, what if I build a side absorber on hinges? Like when I'm not at work, I can swing the side walls to fold them nicely against the front wall. Would that be a good idea? I used to have an issue regarding blocking part of the original window but I guess it's fine because currently, a cupboard is in the exact spot anyway and it's been there for ages!! Thanks.

Instead of glass on the sidewall, what if I build a side absorber on hinges? Like when I'm not at work, I can swing the side walls to fold them nicely against the front wall. Would that be a good idea?

Any thoughts on that guys? Thanks

is it possible for me to re-edit the diagram made by john? i've just realised that there are a few faults in measurements in the drawing and i wanna correct it before going further in planning. i've already downloaded the trial version of sketch up but have no idea how to move on from here on.

here you go cheers john

Thanks John. I've resized the side wall a lil bit because the initial diagram by John shows measurements of the outer wall instead of the inner wall. This has since been corrected in the attached smartdraw file. I've also removed the glass panel idea so as to reflect the current idea of side absorbers on hinges which is pending all your comments. However, I'm not sure if my adjustsments have made the diagram out of scale. How do I check if it is in scale or not in SmartDraw? damn, these softwares are hard lol Thanks

Why take away the glass wall - I liked it so you can see outside as you work. There is plenty of trap space in the front and rear of the design to make a nice sounding room. cheers john

I appreciate that John, but after further discussion with my parents, they did not allow me to proceed with that plan. They told me they might never know when they are gonna sell the house and all that, so I guess the glass idea had to go.