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needing some suggestion on studio layout
Originally posted at johnlsayers.com, topic 3962.
Doni - the studio shell shouldn't join the control room shell. each recording room should have it's own shell.
The sliders in the control room are a problem IMO - are you sure you want to see your tech room - is it for operational gear of for a repair/store room? The right sliders look onto a bare wall??
for a drum room it has to be big enough to take a kit approx 8' x 8' PLUS room for mike stands and walkaround the stands area.
cheers
john
the right slider has only one panel thats glass the stationary panel is solid core. and changing the slider that looks into the tech room can be changed easy enough now back to resizing the drum room.
I enclosed the space between the control room and studio to seal it off for trapping purposes. If I take the 2 small walls out will my tarpping be affective if not how do I fix this problem.
Many thanks to you John, your help is greatly appreciated
oh btw where in the great downunder do you live (what city)?
I'm only asking because I have a few internet friends from Perth and Wales
Well I have done a lil more rethinkin of the design but after I started looking at it somemore I saw there was only one way out in case of fire. So I added an xtra exterior door closer to the drum room and studio which will make unloading easier. And I have changed the over all size to have hopefully enough space required by code for fast exit of the building, and added a larger iso booth and drum room (as was noticed by John before that it wasn't quite big enough [drum room] )
Well anyways here is the layout I didn't do 3d rendered pics yet but will tonight if you see somethin thats not quite right let me know I greatly appreciate anyones help
and thanks much John for all your help and patience
That looks like you would get better lines of sight into the booths and drum room than the previous design.
No lounge though? Where would you put the playstation? :D
Seriously. looking good.
What you didn't know about the automated drop down projection screen in control room?
I'm still rethinkin the design yet again but this time im just not sure how I'm going to change it again. I liked the original live room size and shape when I first started designing this monstrosity. But now that I've added a drum room and larger iso booth and making live room smaller to try and stay as close to the size it was. I'm leaning closer and closer to changing the live room back to it's original shape and making the whole building larger yet again.
so as of right now I wont be adding more pics till I figure out how I'm going to deal with my designing dilema
Well I have figured out my designing dilema so new pics are here. The studio is not quite the same shape but close enough for me lol. the drum room is completely redesigned as well as the iso / vocal booth. And now there is actually a lounge and eating area as well as a kitchen. Yes it got lots BIGGER
Oh and John you'll see where the hallway is connected to all room it's not like that in reality, in my mind I picture using 703 built in frames and wrapped in cloth and put in those places for astectic purposes and to keep each shell decoupled from each other. So when walking through you don't see the non sheetrocked walls inbetween each shell.
heres the last 2 pics and you'll notice there are windows in the studio put them there to let light in but honest opinions about my design are greatly appreciated
Doni,
WOW :lol: :lol:
I am drooling just looking at that layout. I don't have any expert opinions to offer but couldn't resist at least posting an appreciative comment about that.
So, are you planning this for PA or KS? If you do it in Wichita I would LOVE to have the chance to at least watch it being constructed.
Anyway, best of luck with this. I can't wait to see in-process pictures at least.
Darryl.....
Well I'm no great expert but that looks like a great facility to me. Certainly looks like as good a place to work as any studio I've been in, better than most in fact.
The acoustics look like they should be good, and the other facilities seem spacious and well laid out, which will help with a relaxed atmosphere.
Good sight-lines and communication, which can sometimes get forgotten when focused on getting the acoustics right, can make a real difference when it comes to the actual business of making music.
Somewhere to sit and discuss stuff between takes, without disturbing those still working, is well worth fitting in. A neutral chilled-out space is is a breeding ground for ideas mid-session.
These sort of things can make the difference between a good studio and a great one.
Well Darryl if me and the wife get our credit straightened out and when we move to KS and we find a big enough piece of land then, yes it will be built there. But thats going to take a few years. So right now I'm in the planning stages and think I have the layout the way I want it. Just waiting for John to give his professional opinion and any changes that might need to be made. And when constructions commences I'm sure I'll be calling you to come help with the construction. Just from your comments Darryl on wanting to watch it being built I'm sure you'd love to be a part of its construction.
Drew thank you for the kind words means alot man. Glad you like it.
I wouldn't have been able to come up with this design if it wasn't for all the great info here and the very cool and patient people I have met here especially John
I had a hard time designing the lounge/kitchen/eating area, all because of the couch and coffee table couldn't decide whether to put the couch between the bathroom door or where you see it now and still have space to be able to enter comfortably into the hallway that leads to all the rooms
But I do have one question will I have problems having the windows in the studio.
The way I look at it there are 2 primary issues with windows in a studio setting.
1. They are a hard, reflective surface so you need to be sure they are not designed in a location which will create an acoustical problem with whatever sound reflects off of them. Just my amateur look at your desing tells me that you don't have any parallel surfaces so I think you are okay from that standpoint (again, John or someone else more knowledgable really should address this).
2. Windows are prone to be a weak link in the containment of sound within any given room (leakage from either side). Sound leaking from any of your rooms into the hallway probably isn't much of an issue but sound from the hallway into your recording spaces would be an issue if you pick up someone laughing in the hallway during that perfect piano take. There are tried and true ways of installing double windows around here that help minimize this leakage. With separated wall frames, again, if installed properly I don't think it will be much of an issue, but, as usual, my caveat is that a REAL expert should give an opinion on that one.
On the positive side, as Drew mentioned, the windows you've got will provide good sight lines which are both functional and aesthetically pleasing.
My 2 cents for the day,
Darryl.....
Bump tell me what you think John