John suggested positioning my speakers at a 90 degrees angle (see the attachement to this post). I've setup my speakers that way (on a table, the soffits aren't built yet) just to get an idea. I must say I feel a bit uncomfortable with this setup and I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because I'm reading mixed opinions on this kind of setup... Or maybe it's because the speakers are further away then I was used to. I must confess I did not play any music on this setup because the room is untreated at the moment. I guess the stereo field will be very wide, though I'm worrying it's TOO wide for me.
So I made a 60 degrees version. The speaker centers are spaced about 1.2 metres from each other. I can't move back into the room (to make the triangle bigger) because that would put me in a huge null.
What do you think is better:
- 90 degrees: Bigger triangle, speakers further away from my ears, wider stereo image
- 60 degrees: Smaller triangle, speakers closer to my ears, narrower stereo image
EDIT: I'm not sure this topic should be in the speaker forum or the studio design forum...
Here are both designs:
Is this equilateral triangle too small?
Originally posted at johnlsayers.com, topic 3347.
60 degrees is the industry norm for DECADES. IF it feels too close, then move your listening position back.
Andre
ps: yes this should in the design forum. Please continue there and reference this thread.
Like I said, I can't move back because of a null.60 degrees is the industry norm for DECADES. IF it feels too close, then move your listening position back.
Maybe Barefoot or Knightfly can move this topic there?ps: yes this should in the design forum. Please continue there and reference this thread.
Thanx! :)
Not wishing to be impatient or disrespectful (I know you are all very busy and this is a free service) but can someone please tell me what they think of the 60 degrees design? I'm starting building in a few days.
well yes and no - Music farm and Hello Testing and EMI's Studio 301 and Fast Forward in Melbourne were all 90 degrees here in australia - I worked at Music farm for years with 90 degrees and produced hit records. It was fine. In a small room such as this 90 degrees is a good option IMO. cheers john60 degrees is the industry norm for DECADES
Thanks for the clarification. The concept of acoustical standards for studios is quite new, starting seriously (quantified standards) in the late seventies/early eighties with Davis et al. I was thinking specifically of "acoustics and Noise Control" from circa 1972 by Rettinger where the reference to an equilateral triangle is mentioned. NAturally, it has decades for these things to establish themselves as accepted. All the stuff I have heard and heard about the studios you mentioned is great, so the proof is int he pudding. LEarning; Andrewell yes and no - Music farm and Hello Testing and EMI's Studio 301 and Fast Forward in Melbourne were all 90 degrees here in australia - I worked at Music farm for years with 90 degrees and produced hit records. It was fine. In a small room such as this 90 degrees is a good option IMO. cheers john60 degrees is the industry norm for DECADES
hey Andre - here's a nice looking control room yet an analysis of the plans showing something interesting :):)
cheers
john
I tried setting up both layouts again but I must say I still feel much more comfortable with the smaller 60 degrees layout.
However, John, the design you posted got me inspired so I made a 70 degrees layout too, and checked it, and I like it!
The 70 degrees layout in my room is over here:
http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewt ... 3601#23601
The best way to find out what angle ist the best for you is to try it.
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :oops:The best way to find out what angle ist the best for you is to try it.
Well yeah, that's pretty obvious, isn't it? I did just that, and I felt very comfortable with 70 degrees.The best way to find out what angle ist the best for you is to try it.