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This is my first post and I just have to say I appreciate the knowledge in this forumn. I've been blessed as my wife and I are preparing to build a house which will allow me space for my studio, a major upgrade from the garage corner with natural climate control:)
The new build will allow me the space as attached below(if I did it right). I've included two plans one with equip layout and one without. As I staed this will be in our new house and maintaining the structural elements is key for future resale possibilities and wifes comfort also:) Advice on acoustic treatments for the control room and live room is much desired. The vocal booth will be a dead room.The ceiling height in both spaces will be about 9'.
For reference I primarily produce and record/mix Urban Gospel styles; Hip-Hop, R&B, Neo-Soul, Rap, etc.
Advanced thanks for the future guidance...
GOD Bless!...Keep Punchin the RED Button!
New Studio Design advice...
Originally posted at johnlsayers.com, topic 2273.
Looks Good :)
Thanks Bryan,
In tuning the live room, I would assume using "Slot Resonators", which walls shoul receive treatment and at which freqs.? I'd like to get a warm, intimate and edgy sound. If that makes sense.
Thanks
Too much Drama. LOL.
Just get the room tuned right and all will be well. :)
Basically let them absorb the mids as they are designed to do. What are you doing to your ceiling????
I'd vary your slat spaciong from 1/4" to 3/4" and you'll be fine. we can run the numbers all day long. But being seriously practical those spacings at what I assume your depths to be a max of 1.5' to maybe 1/2' (feet) will cover you well in those mids. :)
Note these are ball park numbers not to be etched in stone your needs might vary.
key thing is making sure they are angled properly. 12 degrees, etc.... I am sure you read the forum well as your design reflects that :)
That will give you a very nice sound PERIOD. :)
Thanks again Bryan, I'm on it! As for the ceiling, it will be Gyp. and I'm looking at either diffusion or clouds for absortion. The floor will be wood and the other walls will have some form of damping.
Thanks again.
Be Blessed!
I Like the clouds Idea.
Any samples of your work???
Do you engineer or produce.
My wife and I are starting her next CD and are looking for different producers.
You know, keep the public guessing :)
I do both. I have some stuff now being finished up. Young lady out of New Jersey, I produced 8 tracks for her CD and a couple of guy's here in Tulsa I'm producing their projects.
I'll see about setting up a temporary site where you can peep some of it out at.
Bryan, also on the slot resonator, I'm assuming the back panel is secured to the wall or is there a gap? Are resilient channels used at all? I'm searching trying to find these answers.
Thanks
LRG
Slat resonators are very easy to build.
You have your main iso wall. (the square/rectangular room)
you determine the angle from the wall that the resonator should follow. (like the angle in your design.) Build a wall frame along that angle. Seal that area of space behind the wall frame. I used drywall.
Between the studs put in insulation (rockwool) cover with some cloth. Whatever color you choose :) I used green. The attach the slats to your false wall on top of the fabric.
That simple
Hope I kept it clear for yah :)
There are pics in the studios under construction section to show the build process. :)
Here is one. Not the 1st pic on the floor is the frmed angle for the slat resonator wall. His is a combo slat resonator/bass trap wall
http://www.johnlsayers.com/Studio/Pages ... ions_3.htm
Thanks Bryan, you 've helped to place me on the right path. Last but not least, what is the thickness of the slats 5/8", 1", etc, and does the type of wood used affect the resonance factor?
God Bless!
The most commonly used wood is 1x.... wether it's 1x3,1x4,1x6, etc....
LRG, welcome to the site - looks like you are getting there quickly, it's always nice when people do a bit of looking around before asking the same 10 questions;
On the slot resonators - everything you do will affect the outcome, but some things are more important than others - I've corrected a wrong formula in the helmholtz calculator that's on the SAE site John sold a few years ago, the correct version (including one John added recently for imperial measurements) can be found here -
http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1363
This requires Excel on your computer.
Note there are entries for slot width, slat width, slat thickness, and distance from the wall - you can see just by changing any one of these what the change in center frequency will be.
One important thing is the cloth behind the slats - this needs to be immediately behind the slats (as in, touching or nearly so) or it shifts the results (not sure how just yet, I just got Cox & D'Antonio's new absorber book last week and haven't had more than a few minutes to dig into it, and it's deep enough to drown in :? ) -
The main reason for slanting the fronts of these is to maintain the RFZ in a control room, or (for a live room) getting rid of parallel walls to help control flutter echo. At frequencies below maybe 200 hZ, the wavelength of the sound is long enough that a varying depth absorber will mostly just AVERAGE out, because in a smaller room you're already in "pressure" mode instead of "wave" mode, so the entire resonator will see the same phase for all practical purposes - for that reason, the "depth from wall" part of the calculator should get the average depth of the absorber. So, if your particular absorber goes from 4" to 20" deep, you should enter 12" for depth.
Higher frequencies will tend to see this absorber at a more "local" area, so the effect of varying depth will (IMO) broaden out (almost always a GOOD thing)
Hope that helped... Steve
Thanks Bryan, and yes Steve that has helped to increase clarity for me. I'll download that calculator and go to work. This forum is off the chain, 4-Real. I appreciate all the insight...
Peace &
God Bless