This is off of the Studio Construction topic
It seems a shame to cut up the performance spaces. Have you considered one great performance are with variable acoustics? The following is to scale using 29x42 feet (a generous 1.5" for outside wall thickness) and the control room size shape is consistent with EBU 2876 and Grammy P&R wing recommendations.
The drum area is raised and has valence around the perimeter to define it and provide a sealing mechanism for the glass partitions when isolation is desired.
Remember, this is purely for ideas. I have no idea of doors etc.
Thoughts?
Joey-T's Studio
Originally posted at johnlsayers.com, topic 2160.
If you want a 5.1 room, you can't use a LEDE design. Check out the AES library. The white paper states that the acoustics must be uniform (treatment must be the same on all four walls).
There is lots of interesting reading material on the AES site. Check it out.
I don't understand your post. Why are you mentioning LEDE? The only AES document I know relating to this subject is TD1001 http://www.aes.org/technical/documents/AESTD1001.pdf which is a report of evolving practices and takes great pains to indicate nothing has been vetted by the AES. I have never read any official or otherwise standard that prescribes or describes 100% even absorption on all walls. What I have read is that wall treatment should be even after initial reflections, room modes, etc. are treated. I am very interested in this AES white you mention. Could you provide a link or titile so that I can learn from it? Thanks Andre (edit) After initially posting this, I wondered why Lowbrent's remarks seemed so familiar. Cutting to the chase, if the topic is of interest to anyone, read this thread http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1566&highlight= The discussion turns to 5.1 about 2/3s of the way down the first page. Lowbrent: After reviewing the above thread, I am especailly interested in the AES white paper you wrote about.If you want a 5.1 room, you can't use a LEDE design. Check out the AES library. The white paper states that the acoustics must be uniform (treatment must be the same on all four walls). There is lots of interesting reading material on the AES site. Check it out.
Well, I guess I didn't realize how big the control rooms typically are, once I started comparing some of the drawings on this site (then converting metrics to feet), it looked as if "plan B" wouldn't fit. So I had come up with a modified "Plan B" which even fits the yard layout a bit better. Lets see if I can figure out how to post an image...
Just for some more info... I don't mind having my drum set in its own isolated room. In the "band" I'm jamming with, I'm not the drummer-- and he brings his own set. Also, I don't mind having the baby grand roomed off either-- there is an upright that can be out on the stage area.
The only door I have shown in the pic is the entrance to the building, mostly because I don't know where to place the other doors. I figured the control room would "face" the stage and have a window, as well as a window provided for the vocal booth, piano and drum rooms. The vocal room was a last minute thought, but it would be nice, as I record readings of newspapers for the blind.
One change that the drawing doesn't reflect is the width of the "entertaining area." After some discussion with the other half, and things this space would be useful for, we figured a 24' width might be better than an 18' width. Of course, since this is the "less professional" area of the building, I guess that doesn't matter too much.
This drawing is only an idea, no part of it is set in stone. I know alot will likely have to be changed, and I can accept it if the entire idea is wrong or undoable. Fire away!
Nice design. Gives idea on outside shape, access, etc. Some quick comments, the drum both as a drum booth is huge! Seems like you have four isolated performance spaces. Is the control room facing the outside wall?
I'll post another drawing shortly.
Great project!
Andre
(Edit) I wrote this as you posted your last message. Lots answered and clarified.
I wasn't sure about what the dimensions should be for the drum room, so it just kinda followed the shape of the piano room (I noticed on a couple other drawings that the piano rooms tend to be larger than the "physical" requirements of the piano). I could always put another wall in there to shorten up the drum room, and make a storage area. How much room do you think I should have with a double-bass kit?
I forgot to mention that this obviously doesn't show wall construction details-- just a very basic shape. I'm open for ideas, so feel free to tinker with it. I'm still wading through all those links and making notes, so keep that in mind if I ask something dumb. :D
I'm still clueless on ceiling height/design, too (just so you know). Also, in my drawing, I show two parallel walls in the control room (vocal booth wall and stage wall), I need to do something about that, right? And, is that as big an issue in the stage room, where recording quality isn't really an issue? Or does it also help in soundproofing the building?