Just a couple of questions if anyone can help me out.
Does the concrete slab need to be slightly above ground level?
Can the outer wall framing 2x4's be bolted direct to concrete slab?
Is it possible to instead of creating a reinforced concrete slab to build a timber frame and suspend above ground,using steel feet concreted in the ground at various points to support the load.
Then insulate , board etc as a floating floor?
by the way the building is 6m x 4 m 2.5m high all timber
many thanks
Using a reinforced concrete slab as a timber framed building
Originally posted at johnlsayers.com, topic 18440.
Hi Crushturtle. Please read the forum rules for posting (click here). You seem to be missing a couple of things! :)
Assuming you mean that you want to pour the slab on the ground, in a hole dug down a bit (with suitable footings), but also make it thick enough so it sticks up above ground level, then yes, I certainly would do that, given the option, for drainage and moisture issues mostly. But your local code might have something to say about that too.Does the concrete slab need to be slightly above ground level?
It's not they they "can" be, but that the HAVE TO be bolted. All walls need to be attached to a firm base, either directly or through suitable isolation mounts. Especially where I live (!) but also everywhere else. Every now and then someone comes along arguing that it is perfectly fine to have walls just sitting on rubber pads, with no attachment to the sub-floor / foundations: it isn't. In my book, it is never fine to have a structure without proper support.Can the outer wall framing 2x4's be bolted direct to concrete slab?
I just answered another thread yesterday, where someone else was thinking along the same lines as you are, so I'll just post a link here to that thread (as I don't feel like re-typing it all! :) ) : viewtopic.php?f=2&t=17739&start=21Is it possible to instead of creating a reinforced concrete slab to build a timber frame and suspend above ground,using steel feet concreted in the ground at various points to support the load.
If you float it correctly, yes. But that's not as easy as it sounds. This thread will give you the basis you need to figure out how to float your floor, if that's what you want to do: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8173 - Stuart -Then insulate , board etc as a floating floor?
Hi soundman thanks for the quick and very clear response its greatly appreciated,nice to know someone is out there..
Hi Crushturtle. Please read the forum rules for posting (click here). You seem to be missing a couple of things! :) I tried to follow the forum rules as much as possible in my first and original post in the design section of the forum hope this is ok.Assuming you mean that you want to pour the slab on the ground, in a hole dug down a bit (with suitable footings), but also make it thick enough so it sticks up above ground level, then yes, I certainly would do that, given the option, for drainage and moisture issues mostly. But your local code might have something to say about that too. yes exactly what i meantDoes the concrete slab need to be slightly above ground level?It's not they they "can" be, but that the HAVE TO be bolted. All walls need to be attached to a firm base, either directly or through suitable isolation mounts. Especially where I live (!) but also everywhere else. Every now and then someone comes along arguing that it is perfectly fine to have walls just sitting on rubber pads, with no attachment to the sub-floor / foundations: it isn't. In my book, it is never fine to have a structure without proper support. I perhaps didnt explain myself too well i will definetly be bolting the exterior timber frame to the concrete slab i just wasnt sure if i needed to attach directly or use any other material under it ie rubber etc and seal the joint somehow. would you recommend attaching directly or using something else as well?Can the outer wall framing 2x4's be bolted direct to concrete slab?I just answered another thread yesterday, where someone else was thinking along the same lines as you are, so I'll just post a link here to that thread (as I don't feel like re-typing it all! :) ) : viewtopic.php?f=2&t=17739&start=21 concrete slab it is then i thought as much but like our friend downunder wanted to check, great explanantion by the way,learning all the time.Is it possible to instead of creating a reinforced concrete slab to build a timber frame and suspend above ground,using steel feet concreted in the ground at various points to support the load.If you float it correctly, yes. But that's not as easy as it sounds. This thread will give you the basis you need to figure out how to float your floor, if that's what you want to do: as i know now that i will definetly be creating a concrete base i will ,like recommended by you and lots of others be using a laminate or solid wood flooring over a suitable backing. Thanks again for the help im sure it wont be the last time i need it from this forum but im learning more everyday. :yahoo: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8173 - Stuart -Then insulate , board etc as a floating floor?