Could I have some tips too?

Hi guys...for some of you it might be good morning,for some good afternoon,and for some good evening.Anyways...I've been reading the posts on this forum for a while,and it looks that this is where I need to be!However, I'm not sure,that this is the right place to post this thread,therefore let me know if "it" needs to be moved elsewhere. I live in florida...It's like hell,only hotter. :evil:I dont have any desire time,nor space to run a professional studio in the future(it's probably 10 years too late for me), but for my own pleasure,satisfaction,indulgence,and will to help my fiends who are still having fun playing in the bands orround here,I realy need my mixes to translate :blah:yeah,I know...you've heard it many,many,many times... To the point! I would like to get some pointers on how to set up my workspace,and acoustic treatments to be able to do better mixes.....Please,do not laugh...I've had some 2'X2' studiofoam wegies on the walls,but that just doesn't seam to work..My mixes played outside of my room sound like they need Cut at 500Hz and 2000kHz-4000kHz. I've got the worse room of them all:http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20876473/my%20room.png with:11',lenght:12' hight:8'. I don't know if it matters,but I don't own a sub(yet),but I do have real nearfield monitors ADAM A7X.Also I've got all the skils & tools needed to built any types of panels absorbers,traps,etc.(another hobby -fine carpentry)My question is:I'm willing to put 110% of effort,to do it right,but having this type of room...is it even worth it???or I should just drop the subject,till I get a better work space,and just use my headphones??I know it's preaty bad..just be honest. Thanks guys. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20876473/my%20room.png

What you want to look for is RFZ (reflection free zone), then search for live end/dead end. Your thoughts and research should be placed on mixing/playing in one room mixing. Typically, you are going to be placing "broad band treatment" in at least the front vertical corners in front of the mix position, treatments at the "first reflection points" (about where you head/ears are in the mixing chair), an "over head cloud" may produce good results for you as well. All words in parenthesis should be considered good search terms as well in your research.

Hi there "basyl666 from hell" ( :) ). Welcome! Your current layout doesn't look too bad, and you didn't mention isolation ("soundproofing") of your room as being necessary, so it looks like this is just about treatment. As Brien said, your best bet is to design an RFZ (Reflection Free Zone) around your mix position. That basically means that you angle hard flat surfaces around the front half of they room such that all of the first-order reflections from your speakers go around the mix position, and not to it. For the remaining points where you can't do that, you put deep, thick absorption in the way. In other words, you set things up so that you can only hear the direct sound from the speakers, not reflections bouncing around the front half of the room. Obviously, that improves the clarity, stereo imaging, sound stage, etc. of your system, so that you can hear the real sound of the speakers more, and not the "colored" sound that the room is adding to it. In other words, you hear the mix the way it really is, not the way the room makes it sound. That's the general idea.

I've got the worse room of them all with:11',lenght:12' hight:8'.

It isn't all that bad, actually. Not far from Sepmeyer's second best ratio, and nearly enough volume to be good. It is workable. And seeing you are into carpentry, getting it rough should not be an issue! I say: go for it! :)

Please,do not laugh...I've had some 2'X2' studiofoam wegies on the walls,but that just doesn't seam to work..

HAHAHAHAH!!! :) (Sorry!) Couldn't resist it... Most likely those are not actually doing anything at all for your real problems. They are very likely way too thin, and probably in the wrong places. You can probably re-use those in your final treatment (so don't trash them yet), but right now they aren't doing much.

I don't know if it matters,but I don't own a sub(yet),but I do have real nearfield monitors ADAM A7X.

Nice! Good choice! With those properly mounted and your room st up correctly, you should have an excellent set up. You could add a Sub-8 to that, if you want, depending on what type of music you plan to mix in there. The A7s are good, but a little light on the low end, and adding a Sub-8 works well.

is it even worth it???

Yup!

I should just drop the subject,till I get a better work space,and just use my headphones??

AAAAARGHHHHHH!!!!! That's my opinion on trying to mix on headphones. It works up to a point, but cannot give you the full perception of mixing on a good set of speakers in a good space. I'd say that this is a worthwhile endeavor, if the room is designed well and built properly. One more thing: Budget: You didn't mention what kind of figure you have in mind, but since you work in wood you already have an idea, I'm sure, and you don't strike me as the typical kind of guy who comes in here and says "I have US$ 500 and I want to make my 4x4x8 bathroom sound like Abbey Road"... You already know that this is not going to be cheap.... Just a point you should be aware of. - Stuart -

Hi guys,and thank you for responding so quickly. Yes,in my first post I didn't say anything about the $money I was ready to spend,but from my own experience it's never the way you plan.there is always something else to buy,add,change,etc.Also,I know that this will be an on going process for me "one thing at the time"..It wont be easy,but I'm ready to take the challenge.Next week I'll try to order my first shipment of "703" :yahoo: So if there is 6 panels of 2" thick material in each box,(2 boxes)it will allow me to build six 4 inch thick panels,That should be enough to take care of the corners on the front wall(my ceiling is 8')and I'll have couple extra which I think will go on the side walls.I was gonna cover my side window with something and install my panels like this.http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20876473/fig%201.png.Is this what you would suggest?http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20876473/fig%201.png http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20876473/ok.png this one should work

Oh! one more thing.I new all along that,my room was not gonna sound like Abey Road to begin with,so I think a good starting point would be $1000 (us) Thak you.

Hello everyone! So I built some bass traps.Not necessarly 100% original design,but if there's even one person in the whole wide world finding it helpful,Im happy. Here's some pix: Since the fiberglass panels were hand me down,I ended up paying for plywood and burlop only + glue http://www.joann.com/joann/catalog/prod ... D=prd23682 I have one question though..On some of my fiberglass panels there is some type of protective coating Its not too hard,not too soft yet fragile,it's like a shell ..you can easily break through it with your fingers,but it doesn't allow air through....Could they also be used as a bass trap material since some people cover their bass traps with plastic to reduce higher frequency absorption? :?: Or I totally got that wrong?

I forgot to add,that the reason why I decided to go with this particular design was,that I needed to create something that would be:durable,stackable,portable,and practicle.