Sonolink Studio Project

Excellent :D I'd like to know your thoughts about the back of the studio. The rear wall in my room is uneven as you can see on the attached pics. I thought that filling with insulation the deepest part to get a homogeneous absorptive surface would be the thing to do. But this was some time ago (it seems like a looong time ago since all this began :D ). Is it worth it or I am wasting space? Another added problem at the rear of the room is the door. It's very near the corner, so much so, that a big superchunk (100mm wide) wouldn't fit. Shame cos it does fit in the other corner, and for once that I have the space....anyway, the first solution I came up with was to build the superchunk so that one part is on the wall and the other part is on the door. When the door is closed it's a 100mm wide superchunk. BUT, this is easier said than done, as usual...although not impossible... 8) Then I read a thread in which John has a similar issue, and to sort it, he uses different shaped superchunks. Something like this: Finally, I ended up wondering if I should just go with this: Or this, that would give me some space for some storage, shelving, or similar... What do you reckon? :mrgreen: Thanks for your time and help Cheers Sono

either of the last two will do it. the flat one could have some flat absorbers added and you then have space for a small couch etc.

FWIW, I'd go with either of the last two. The look pretty similar, to my way of thinking. - Stuart -

Thanks a lot for ur fast replies, gentlemen :mrgreen:

gullfo wrote:

the flat one could have some flat absorbers added and you then have space for a small couch etc.

That sounds very interesting. Could you please elaborate? Cheers Sono

use the flat space in the last drawing to place a small couch. hang flat absorbers on the wall above it.

Oh I see what you mean. The couch is definitely a must 8) The green bit on the wall between the superchunks is 50mm rockwool covered in cloth. Is that enough absorbers, or would you hang absorbent panels on top of that? The room is beginning to take shape now with the side slat walls frames :mrgreen: Pics soon!! Cheers Sono

i'd make that 100mm deep and put some widely spaced slats on it to 1) prevent people falling/bumping into it :shock: 2) keep it from being dead... see attached for one idea for how to maximize the backwall absorption

Glenn, Thanks for the pic. That looks really cool, and it would probably also sort out the bass trapping for that end of the ceiling...a couple of BUTs though (sorry to be a PITA....) - I was thinking of putting the Air Conditioning machine on that wall. - Between the door and that wall, I have just about 300mm to place the superchunk (the superchunk would be nearly 900mm wide), so I don't know how the vertical splay on your pic would be feasable. I did a sketch without vertical splay. On top of the AC and between the superchunks would be the ceiling superchunk (not depicted) behind one of the clouds: What do you reckon? Cheers Sono

works for me

Great!! :yahoo: I'll build it 100mm thick and with the same internal structure as in your pic. It's nearly 1 am here, and I just finished one of those caulking sessions....decided to have a fresh beer before going to bed.... This one is for you :mrgreen: Cheers Sono

Is it ok to put some extra studs across the side slat walls like this? Cheers Sono

yes

Excellent. Thanks.

Hi again, some updates: I have finished most of the framing. Now I need to fill with fibreglass. Found color scheme and cloth. Got wood for slats and soffits. Build reinforcement for AConditioning and screen. Praying that caulking and sealing is a thing from the past... ONE question: My inner leaf ceiling is at 2.35m. After placing the first rockwool layer inside the frame (50mm) it'll come down to 2.30m. If I have to hang the clouds at 100-150mm from there, I'll be down to 2.20m, plus the thickness of the clouds themselves (aprox 100mm) it'll bring the ceiling down to 2.10.... Is it me or that will be quite low, especially considering this will be all the ceiling, not just a sloped part and that I measure 1.90m? Maybe I should go back to the original components file idea of half angled ceiling? Maybe you have another suggestion? All input is very welcome as usual :mrgreen: Some photos... Cheers Sono

fill in the framing with the rigid insulation, cover with heavy plastic sheet and then cloth. then use several clouds of 4" rigid insulation on various angles to add some additional absorption. use some widely spaced slats and/or panels on the clouds to preserve some high frequencies. keep the ceiling as high as you can.

Yes, my intention was to follow your example cloud pic. I just get the impression that the ceiling will be very low. -Can I hang the clouds as near as possible to the ceiling so that the "highest side" is touching it? -how wide would you build the bass trapping on the ceiling corners? Something like 50-60 cm? Thanks for your help Cheers

the clouds in the front of the room can hang lower and at a steeper angle, and as you move back the can get closer to the ceiling and lay out horizontal. for the size of the bass traps, as large as you can make them and have enough clearance and be comfortable.

Excellent. Thanks Glenn. I'll keep you posted. Cheers Sono

mmm btw, any illumination/lighting ideas/suggestions? I'd like to have some ambience lights (initially I thought Of creating these by placing bulbs behind wall panels, but now I dont have wall panels anymore :)), and proper light over the desk (I know some find it very cool to mix in a semi dark inspiring atmosphere, but at the desk I like to see what my fingers are tweaking :mrgreen: Thanks Cheers Sono

LED lighting. you can embed them into your clouds. also the ambient lighting could be done by using LED tube lights (a string of LED in a clear or colored plastic tube) around the upper parts of your clouds etc.

Yes, I heard of LEDs. Much lower consumption and no heat. So basically I could stick some tube LEDs on the clouds (wall side) for the ambient light and a bunch of single LEDs for the direct light. Simple and great :)....but how do I calculate the amount of light I need?

check with the manufacturer. most of the direct light ones use multiple LED and have their lumens etc documented. usualy i like to use multiple circuits rather than dimmers so i can scale the lighting from ambiance only, 35% of room lights - over console and producer desk/couch only, and 100% for bright when needing to wire up, clean, etc.

You mean like three levels, i.e. 1-ambience 2-desk and couch 3-100% bright That's a cool idea and rules out dimmer problems. I was actually thinking on using an electronic dimmer on a different breaker (I'm wiring all my audio on a dedicated circuit breaker) but I think I'll give your system a go :mrgreen: How can I find out how many lumens I need? Out Of curiosity, how many do you use? Cheers Sono

usually 4 or 5 ~700 lumen lamps over the console and same for the producer area. plus another 6-8 around the front, middle and back. this is a total of 14-18 lamps. i like 2700°K (warmer) versus 3500°K (neutral) but FMMV. make 3 active over producer and console for the middle light setting. if you set up your switching and plugs correctly you can always adjust the number that are on or off per setting. use track lighting also allows to start off with fewer (or more) and you can selecting adjust plus aim.

Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation :) Nevertheless, I apologize but I got lost here. Could you please explain again the two following points?

gullfo wrote:

if you set up your switching and plugs correctly you can always adjust the number that are on or off per setting. use track lighting also allows to start off with fewer (or more) and you can selecting adjust plus aim.

Thanks a lot for your help Cheers Sono